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I have used Mycorrhizal fungus inoculation in planting custom ornamental gardens for about ten years.
I spoke years ago to one of M-Root's developers, He admitted that their product was a shot gun approach and they were working on matching particular species to specific plant groups.

My experience is that the sleep, then creep, then leap phenomena of new plantings of trees and shrubs is partly over come by the acceleration of the reestablishment of the symbiotic fungal / root relationship. This responce I have not seen however in my Perenial and annual beds.

M-Roots is the best bang for the buck that I've found,
25 billion per 40 lb bag @ $13,
24 different species both Endo and Ecto

Here's the M-Roots site: Roots Inc. - Mycorrhizal fungi and more.

I found a sales office in Australia for M-Roots:

http://www.rootsinc.com/images/SALESMap.pdf



and for ya'll in the western US:

REFORESTATION TECHNOLOGIES INTERNATIONAL
RTI was founded in 1993 to provide planting establishment and protection products for reforestation, landscape restoration, horticulture and agriculture. Our two primary product lines are controlled release and organic fertilizers in a “teabag” delivery system plus mycorrhizal inoculants. Recently we have been developing an animal repellent product based on nutrition, not foliar applied repellents.
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I am currently trying to get as many referenced articles that I can on Terra Preta soils and charcoal amendments to soil. I feel that we must avoid any perception of TP soils being "fringe" or "new age" by using quality sources. So if you have any links to good articles let me know.

In light of that the best article I have found so far documenting the relationship or microbial life and charchoal is: "Charcaol as a Potential Tool for Land and Water Remediation". You will have to Google this as I do not have enough posts to add links yet but when I do I will also share the referenced articles that I have found. Most of you may already have them.
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Thought I'd get another post under my belt! One of the best online articles I have found is by Natasha Celine (this may have already been mentioned in an earlier post), called "Amazonian Dark Earths". Again Google this and it comes up quick. I think this may have been an unpublished master dissertation it is great for the history, benifits, and overall view of Terra Preta. It is referenced and the best thing I can say is that I wish I had written it!
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Another thought (and post). If you havn't accessed the 18th World Conference of Soil Science do!! Once you get on this site and get to the search listing just type in Terra Preta, Amazonian Dark Earth, Indian Dark Earth, Biochar, black carbon or any other word dealing with Terra Preta and you get the abstracts of 40 or more paper presentations with the best up to date scientific information on TP.
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Terra Preta Discussion , central data base, and Mail list at REPP-CREST:
Organizations | Terra Preta

A most comprehensive Soil science data base by Dr. Danny Day at GIT : Welcome To Carbon Negative
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Erich, thanks for the information I have registered on the Epidra/Carbon Negative website and await confermation. So far this looks like a great site.
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I have posted probably two or three times on this thread since it started. I am very interested in Terra Preta for many reasons -- soil sustainability and productivity, fertilizer runoff reduction, and just for my own interest in gardening. One thing I am not interested in solving is global warming because I don't believe in it as a man caused phenomenon. But if that gets research money into Terra Preta I guess that's ok too. Nevertheless, I do feel compelled to post this image.

Not sure if I can post images or just links. I'll give it a shot...

(ok, as it turns out i'm not allowed to post links yet due to my low post count. do it yourselves i guess.)

wwwDOTplacergopDOTorg/_content/gwDOTjpg
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http://www.placergop.org/_content/gw.jpg

I believe Human activity started with agriculture 10,000 yrs ago . The point on the graph where the red turns solid.


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Abstract The anthropogenic era is generally thought to have begun 150 to 200 years ago, when the industrial revolution began producing CO2 andCH4 at rates sufficient to alter their compositions in the atmosphere. A different hypothesis is posed here: anthropogenic emissions of these gases first altered atmospheric concentrations thousands of years ago. This hypothesis is based on three arguments. (1) Cyclic variations in CO2 andCH4 driven by Earth-orbital changes during the last 350,000 years predict decreases throughout the Holocene, but the CO2 trend began ananomalous increase 8000 years ago, and the CH4 trend did so 5000 years ago.(2) Published explanations for these mid- to late-Holocene gas increases basedon natural forcing can be rejected based on paleoclimatic evidence. (3) A wide array of archeological, cultural, historical and geologic evidence points to viable explanations tied to anthropogenic changes resulting from early agriculture in Eurasia, including the start of forest clearance by 8000 years ago and of rice irrigation by 5000 years ago. In recent millennia, the estimated warming caused by these early gas emissions reached a global-mean value of 0.8 °C and roughly 2 °C at high latitudes, large enough to have stopped a glaciation of northeastern Canada predicted by two kinds of climatic models. CO2 oscillations of 10 ppm in the last 1000 years are toolarge to be explained by external (solar-volcanic) forcing, but they can be explained by outbreaks of bubonic plague that caused historically documented farm abandonment in western Eurasia. Forest regrowth on abandoned farms sequestered enough carbon to account for the observed CO2decreases. Plague-driven CO2 changes were also a significant causal factor in temperature changes during the Little Ice Age (1300–1900 AD).

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And I also feel compelled to post this paper ,But You are Right SoilWatcher, this contention is for another thread.

If any field of endeavor Deserved a BIG TENT it is TP. The bigger the tent the better, it is the ultimate of a conservative cause and a tree hugging earth mother cause. Let every group political or scientific express their interest in TP the way they can. The local garden club to organic farmers to show off the horticultural gains, the environmental engineers and the fossil fuel chemical engineers............this list just goes on and on..........even the "fringe" or "new age" can play their part.

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Online TP Presentation Jan 31st

Tomorrow there will be an interesting TP presentation at Wageningen University... also available online.

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1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus : With a special reference to the Terra Preta

Place: LA13
Time: 19.30 , January 31th

Presentation by Charles Mann, Amherst MA , U.S.A. ,

Gertjan Becx, Joep van den Broek and Guido van Hofwegen (Resilience Foundation, Wageningen)

This lecture is available in real-time/online on INTERNET via link WUR Video Archive

What was the Western Hemisphere like before Europeans arrived? Most of us have a few impressions from school long ago, or from movies and the popular culture: Columbus, the conquistadores, and the first Thanksgiving. Most of those ideas are wrong, says author Charles Mann in his book: 1491 - New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus . The bestseller book combines research of the past decades on the pre-Columbian Americas .

Mann argues that the Americas had a far larger population than was previously assumed. The Americas inhabited multiple cultures, languages and large cities. Mann claims that the idea of a pristine, natural environment in the Americas before 1491 is untrue. The ecological conditions there were shaped by human activity far before European colonization.

One of the greatest achievements of the native population of the Amazon, and main topic of the presentation, is the creation of Terra Preta. Terra Preta is a very stable soil type with a very high fertility. Researchers conclude that this soil type is able to produce 4-10 times as much food as other tropical soils. The creation of this soil was crucial for sustaining large populations.

Terra Preta are probably a product of indigenous soil management involving a labor intensive technique of slash-and-char. In addition, the presence of fish bones and special bacteria and fungi play a role. Until now some of the questions on the miraculous fertility of Terra Preta have been answered, but many questions with respect to the origin, distribution, and properties remain. Currently, Wageningen researchers attempt to unravel some of the remaining mysteries surrounding Terra Preta and they even attempt to recreate Terra Preta. After the presentation of Charles Mann some of the Terra Preta research conducted at Wageningen University will be discussed.

The 1491 book introduced Terra Preta to a broader audience. It received very positive reviews, was on several bestseller lists, and was on a number lists for best book of the year.
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To All,

I would like to know what critics are saying about Terra Preta, why it doesn't work, why its not good excettra. I have heared about "nitrogen shock" and in Chapter 6 of Amazonian Dark Earths they also mention some negative.

http://www.css.cornell.edu/faculty/l.../12Lehmann.pdf

Any body have others?
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