Does God exist?

[phoenixbyrd]

I suggest you learn a little bit more about the observer effect and QM in general. QM doesn't and never has said that an observer is required for something to exist. That statement is a misunderstanding of what the observer effect is. Sure, it sounds all cool and stuff, but the fact is the universe doesn't need anything to observe it in order for it to exist.

Take a rock or mountain for example, way out in some uninhabited part of our planet. No one is observing it, yet it still exist despite that. Or galaxies billions of light years away for that matter.

What the Bleep are they On About? - Features - The Lab - Australian Broadcasting Corporation's Gateway to Science

[Dyothelite]

Originally Posted by phoenixbyrd

I suggest you learn a little bit more about the observer effect and QM in general. QM doesn't and never has said that an observer is required for something to exist. That statement is a misunderstanding of what the observer effect is. Sure, it sounds all cool and stuff, but the fact is the universe doesn't need anything to observe it in order for it to exist.

Take a rock or mountain for example, way out in some uninhabited part of our planet. No one is observing it, yet it still exist despite that. Or galaxies billions of light years away for that matter.

What the Bleep are they On About? - Features - The Lab - Australian Broadcasting Corporation's Gateway to Science

Without an observer that experiences time the remote mountain is irrelevant because it is only a mountain for a given time, before it was a mountain it was a tectonic plate that eventually crumpled into a mountain. Therefore, to call it a mountain or galaxy requires the experience of time

[phoenixbyrd]

Oh for the love of gawd. Does anyone besides me sense a trend here on hypography? Here's a new title for the site, hypography, where common sense is the enemy.

[moyself]

Jim Colyer,
If you are looking for unbiased answers, this is not the right website. If you want to read a book that is minutely biased and explains both points of view: Creation and Evolution, I have one in mind.

The book is titled Exploring Creation with General Science by Dr. Jay. L. Wile. The author admits that his book is somewhat biased, but it still gives you the choice to believe in either theory.

The book is a textbook, but if you want simple answers, this is it.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by moyself

Jim Colyer,
If you are looking for unbiased answers, this is not the right website. If you want to read a book that is minutely biased and explains both points of view: Creation and Evolution, I have one in mind.

The book is titled Exploring Creation with General Science by Dr. Jay. L. Wile. The author admits that his book is somewhat biased, but it still gives you the choice to believe in either theory.

The book is a textbook, but if you want simple answers, this is it.

That's not science, friend. That's intelligent design, a christian book for home schooling. I encourage you two watch this special on NOVA about the attempts to introduce ID into the classroom in Dover, PA.

You can view it online, for free, and it's worth your time. It's split into sections so you don't have to watch it all at once if your schedule won't permit:

NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS


Section 1: A Town Divided
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 2: What is Evolution?
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 3: Introducing Intelligent Design
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 4: The Trial Begins
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 5: The Fossil Record
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 6: A Very Successful Theory
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 7: The Nature of Science
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 8: Examining Intelligent Design
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 9: Faith and Reason
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 10: Separation of Church and State
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 11: A Culture Conflict
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 12: Closing Arguments
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

[moyself]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

That's not science, friend. That's intelligent design, a christian book for home schooling. I encourage you two watch this special on NOVA about the attempts to introduce ID into the classroom in Dover, PA.

You can view it online, for free, and it's worth your time. It's split into sections so you don't have to watch it all at once if your schedule won't permit:

NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS


Section 1: A Town Divided
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 2: What is Evolution?
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 3: Introducing Intelligent Design
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 4: The Trial Begins
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 5: The Fossil Record
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 6: A Very Successful Theory
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 7: The Nature of Science
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 8: Examining Intelligent Design
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 9: Faith and Reason
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 10: Separation of Church and State
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 11: A Culture Conflict
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Section 12: Closing Arguments
NOVA | Intelligent Design on Trial | Watch the Program | PBS

Actually it is science(you did get the homeschool book part right though), but it shows both views and doesn't force either view on you. I will try to look at those videos

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by moyself

Actually it is science(you did get the homeschool book part right though), but it shows both views and doesn't force either view on you.

How do you define science? You're clearly not using the same definition that 99% of the rest of the world do.

[moyself]

How is it not science? I have the book right here and it is definately science.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by moyself

How is it not science? I have the book right here and it is definately science.

You have not addressed my question.

How do you define science?

[moyself]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

You have not addressed my question.

How do you define science?

If you want me to be honest, I don't really have a definition for science... Wait a minute! Dictionary here I come! No I'm just kidding I don't have one.

What is your definition?