Our exchanges in other threads have zero relevance to this one (with the slight exception of them demonstrating your consistent inability to understand the context of a discussion and successfully argue your assertions).
Can you or can you not support your assertion that god exists?
Our exchanges in other threads have zero relevance to this one (with the slight exception of them demonstrating your consistent inability to understand the context of a discussion and successfully argue your assertions).
Can you or can you not support your assertion that god exists?
Understood. I went to another thread to explore other minds and there you were so lets just keep it here. I won't venture out.
I have supported my assertion that god exist. God is not "material" therefore science cannot assert proof or evidence to him.
You have said, "since this thing I call god is not material" it is real.
Are you honestly struggling to understand why you're not being taken seriously?
I never said it was real. Please show me where I said it was real. I said God I know to be true.
I am not struggling to understand why I am not being taken seriously you are making false presumptions to aid your rebuttal. I am debating with atheist. Obviously they won't agree. Duh!
Grains, If you believe in deism where god is outside the scope of science and outside the universe all together, then it is impossible for you to know that god. You are not special. Your feelings don't give you a special sense of what exists outside the universe. If there is something completely apart from the natural world then it is apart from you as well.
Grains, If you believe in deism where god is outside the scope of science and outside the universe all together, then it is impossible for you to know that god. You are not special. Your feelings don't give you a special sense of what exists outside the universe. If there is something completely apart from the natural world then it is apart from you as well.
~modest
I understand the argument you guys are making it is just against my faith and can never-hold true. You say "You are not special" yet millions of others around me have the same faith I do (opened up for organized religion please lets not go down that road). You cannot define "apart from the natural world" so you cannot define laws for it.
I understand the argument you guys are making it is just against my faith and can never-hold true. You say "You are not special" yet millions of others around me have the same faith I do (opened up for organized religion please lets not go down that road).
Don't worry, they're not special either.
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Originally Posted by Grains
You cannot define "apart from the natural world" so you cannot define laws for it.
That's my point - neither can you. When faced with the unknown why do people think it's better to make something up than face the fact that it's unknown? Turtles all the way down is better than no turtle at all, eh? I don't get it.
