[Boerseun]

Following that particular argument, blowflies and dungbeetles must be really pissed off with God. We should be seeing blowfly demonstrations outside churches, etc. Cops breaking up unruly mobs of dungbeetles throwing their cargo around. And if its true that you are reincarnated as a lower species if you screwed up, but can't remember it once you've learnt your lesson and came back as a human once again, what's the point? How can you learn the errors of your ways if you are born with 100% amnesia of your previous life every single time?

I discriminate equally when it comes to religions. Reincarnation is one of the main foundations of Hinduism. It's essential for reaching nirvana through higher and higher levels of being. It's poppycock, too.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Boerseun

I discriminate equally when it comes to religions.

+1

[REASON]

Originally Posted by HydrogenBond

Follow this logic. Walruses and other animals don't have a God because they are not high enough on the evolutionary scale to have one. They react in the real time, without much contemplation of infinity. The idea of God did not appear until humans evolved civilization.

So essentially what you're saying here is the rest of the animal kingdom doesn't have a god because they are incapable of making one up in their minds. Yeah, I can agree with that.

Originally Posted by HydrogenBond

Since both animals and aetheists don't have any God concept, does that mean that aetheists and animals have something in common?

Well, the first thing they have in common is they're both animals. The difference is one can't consider god, the other considered god and said.....Nah!

[iamnoman]

Maybe walruses do not need a god beacause they already act in harmony with their environment. When there is inadequate food, they do not reproduce excessively. BY doing so they preserve their own ecosystem. Humans are the only creatures that overextend their credit on this planet, if you can accept that analogy. Anyone is welcome to prove me wrong. Of course, that is what a scientific forum is for.

[IATESOTK]

The same way a pawn needs other pieces. The pawns used together can directly influence the "direction" of the game--- even though they are not a powerful enough piece to win alone. However, the other pieces also need the pawns in order to make their long term plan a success.

[InfiniteNow]

For those who may have missed my subtle point the first time around, here's a more articulate approach:

YouTube - A secular world is a sane world

[TheFaithfulStone]

Originally Posted by HydrogenBond

Follow this logic. Walruses and other animals don't have a God because they are not high enough on the evolutionary scale to have one. They react in the real time, without much contemplation of infinity. The idea of God did not appear until humans evolved civilization. Since both animals and aetheists don't have any God concept, does that mean that aetheists and animals have something in common?

So. Much. Wrong. With. That. Post. Numbered by sentence.

1) Logic?
2) Evolutionary Scale? Evolution isn't a ladder.
3) Or fake time. Humans of course, react in Greenwich Mean Time.
4) Really? Pre-civilization humans didn't have gods? I'll assume you meant "culture" and point out that chimps and dolphins both show culture.
5) Neither of them can follow this post?

Humans have God(s) so we have somebody to blame when things really go south. It makes us feel better. So what?

The destructive part of religion isn't believing that there's a god, it's believing that everybody else needs to believe there's a god.

Nobody who tells you what to believe has anything but their own best interests at heart.

tfs