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The Holy Spirit is not a person but has a personality.
The Holy Spirit is not a person. The Holy Spirit is a Holy Triune member. The Holy Spirit has a personality.
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The Holy Spirit is not a person. The Holy Spirit is a Holy Triune member. The Holy Spirit has a personality.
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That must be one of the most empassioned and articulate expressions of faith and belief I've ever read.
Somebody's being spoon fed their belief system. In all honesty, that saddens me. I wish you luck postridah.
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The Holy Spirit is not a person. The Holy Spirit is a Holy Triune member. The Holy Spirit has a personality.
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Can you prove that?
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The Holy Spirit is an interesting Theological invention of the Christian Church. His role is, according to wiki:
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the Holy Spirit is one of the three divine persons of the Holy Trinity which make up the single substance of God, ... The Holy Spirit is different from Jesus in that He does not have a physical manifestation (or incarnation), and that He frequently dwells in and amongst God's people as a spiritual guide or a Comforter.
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Some claim that the whole idea of the Trinity was to ease the transition for Romans who were used to multiple Gods into monotheism. Leaders of the early Christian Church could be downright practical about promoting their new religion and make it really popular. This shows how important marketing is to growing a major religion, in addition to the usual political impetus of building "us versus them" based almost solely on tribal associations which caused religion to develop in the first place.
As usual The Holy Spirit is a man, showing the innate misogynist nature of Christian religion. It is also notable that while Islam at its inception was far more sexually egalitarian, today most Christian societies accept equality, while much of the Islamic world has decended into institutionalized misogyny, and both of these trends have been forced by the sociological forces of the *cultures* rather than being edicts from the religious hierarchies who due to the desire to see their religions survive, had to go along with these sociological trends.
Now the point you bring up about personality actually has some odd open issues. If He's the guide within all of us, does he have the personality or do we? If he's the personality, why aren't we all the same? Does everyone who does not accept him have no personality? If "our" personalities are a mashup, how is it possible to even perceive his effects except by merely defining him as the sole source of good? If so, would that not mean that unbelievers are incapable of good? Isn't that just an effective marketing technique for retaining followers?
Interesting topic. We could argue this one for hours. Unfortunately the terseness of your post leaves us all wondering what your intent is by posting it at all, so don't be surprised at how many different directions its been pulled in...
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C1ay, postridah is being led (surrounded) by The Holy Spirit. The postridah has been posting messages (different terms other than messages have also been used) from The Holy Spirit using the pen names: tryingtofightback, zspeedyrabit, and the postwriter. The postridah began witnessing the messages approximately in late November of 2006. The postridah used several words and phrases (sightings, "tongues"..believing the messages to be the spiritual gift of the tongues/interpretation of the tongues found in The Holy Bible, "spiritual stimuli", and finaly messages from The Holy Spirit) attempting to convey that which the postridah had observed and continues to observe. As a result of that which the postridah has witnessed, and continues to witness, it has been concluded that The Father, The Son (Jesus Christ), and The Holy Spirit have distinctive personalities that differ from one another.
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What does the Bible teach on this point? The Spirit is Holy (clean, elevated in purpose) It is a power source emanating from the Creator. It is given to those needing and deserving and used on or against others to accomplish the expressed and righteous will of God.
From the first verses of Genesis it is an action filled accompaniment to Jehovah the Creator and Jesus the "master worker" with his Father. They worked on the creation together using the force (power, energy) in endlessly creative endevors for their own creative pleasure and generously shared the creation with us for whom it was designed.
Then they shared the awesome power of the spirit with those who come inline with the will of God. For a while it induced mere mortals with the ability to speak in languages unknown to them spurring the rapid spread of the "GOOD NEWS" that Jesus had successfully accomplished his work becoming the Messiah. It's a wonderful aid to enlightenment as the Bible says only those who the Father wills can see the TRUTH, though it has been written and completed for almost 2000 yrs (the last addition 98 CE). Hidden in plain sight!
It's manifestation can be a whisper like breeze or an AWESOME earthquaking. Always at the right time. Jehovah means "He Causes to Become". Holy Spirit is the tool he uses. Though personified by being called "the helper" it is not an entity on it's own.
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Assuming that English is not your first language, you may be interested to know that usage of the third person--as you seem to do in every post--is normally interpreted as pretentious and an overt attempt to show that one feels that one is superior to the rest of humanity. You may wish to consider how others perceive you if you continue to use this affectation.
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postridah is being led (surrounded) by The Holy Spirit. The postridah has been posting messages (different terms other than messages have also been used) from The Holy Spirit using the pen names...
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And this is significant, how? We're happy that you like that you're being led without any need to make any decisions of your own, but why should we care? Would you mind if we tried to convince you that your decision to do so has harmful side effects?
Did you bother to read the Rules for the theology forum and get the rule within it that "This is not a forum for preaching the word of God," or are you of the belief that because the Holy Spirit told you to post here that its okay to break the rules?
Do you understand how selfish and rude that is? That's not very Christian of you.
If you wish to proselytize, there are many different places on the Internet where one may do so.
This is not one of them.
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As a result of that which the postridah has witnessed, and continues to witness, it has been concluded that The Father, The Son (Jesus Christ), and The Holy Spirit have distinctive personalities that differ from one another.
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Now we're actually happy to discuss "Theology" here, which is defined as the study of commonly defined elements of religious beliefs, and this statement does point at your desire to do so, but we request that it be done using evidence as C1ay requested. Just because you say you "witnessed" it, does not provide any evidence of your opinion.
You're welcome to discuss your opinons, but you must provide discussion within the larger context. As I did above, how does the "personality" of the Holy Spirit relate to similar concepts in other religions?
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What does the Bible teach on this point? The Spirit is Holy (clean, elevated in purpose) It is a power source emanating from the Creator.
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Its nice when the Bible is "interpreted" by someone to "say" something, but an "interpretation" is only an opinion and it must be backed up by other sources to have validity. What do other contemporary sources say?
Clinically spiritual,
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C1ay, postridah is being led (surrounded) by The Holy Spirit. The postridah has been posting messages (different terms other than messages have also been used) from The Holy Spirit using the pen names: tryingtofightback, zspeedyrabit, and the postwriter. The postridah began witnessing the messages approximately in late November of 2006. The postridah used several words and phrases (sightings, "tongues"..believing the messages to be the spiritual gift of the tongues/interpretation of the tongues found in The Holy Bible, "spiritual stimuli", and finaly messages from The Holy Spirit) attempting to convey that which the postridah had observed and continues to observe. As a result of that which the postridah has witnessed, and continues to witness, it has been concluded that The Father, The Son (Jesus Christ), and The Holy Spirit have distinctive personalities that differ from one another.
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Enough with the gibberish. Proof is the result of the scientific method in reducing a theory to fact. Can you prove via a predictable, testable and observable theory that what you claim is actually the fact the you represent it to be. If you just want to preach and expect people to believe you then you've picked the wrong kind of forum. This is a science site, not a religious one. Expect scientific queries of your claims.
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What does the Bible teach on this point? The Spirit is Holy (clean, elevated in purpose) It is a power source emanating from the Creator.
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Before you expect to use the bible as proof of anything around here you might find a few of us around here asking for proof that the bible is something other than a story book.
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The postridah began witnessing the messages approximately in late November of 2006...
The postridah used several words and phrases (sightings, "tongues"
...that which the postridah had observed and continues to observe.
...and continues to witness..
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You should get to a neurologist, post haste. Brain tumours manifest in precisely this manner. Do you experience funny smells when you 'speak in tongues'? Do you experience myoclonic jerks at times? Are those myoclonic jerks mostly on one side of your body?
I'm not kidding you. A pretty big percentage of all the mysterious sightings and 'speaking in tongues' by self-proclaimed prophets over the years have been nothing more and nothing less than undiagnosed brain conditions, and it might even be fatal. So - get off your high third-person horse and go see a doctor. You might just be thankful you did.
Also, a good indicator that will be very helpful to your medical practitioner is the fact that you've got a specific date where these hallucinations started. That might be, for instance, the date a growth in your brain reached a certain size, enough to put pressure on a specific area that controls your speech center. Another good indicator is delusions of grandeur, such as being a prophet, referring to yourself in the third person.
Go see a quack before the thing turns malignant.
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