[Mike C]

Why I believe NATURE is GOD

Nature is the ONLY creator of all life. The female being the most important
of the pairs. The male acts as the protector, servant and decoy.
Nature has created food for us all and it is free.
Nature has given all creatures its clothing. Almost all pairs (female and male)
have the same clothing.
Nature is a liberal GOD because it made NO laws, but gave us genetic and biological characteristics to govern our lives.
Nature requires no licenses to reproduce or any other licenses for that matter.
Hence, no costly marriages.
It has created the food chain as our burial sites, hence no funerals.
It has given us our own doctors with the 'immune systems' within us.
It requires no rituals, tithes or taxes, forced attendances and etc.
It grants no property ownerships, patents or any other grants to create millionaires or billionaires.
It has given us complete freedom with no restrictions although people do need laws to govern themselves..
It is a merciful GOD because it does not suffer us by prolonging death and even tempers this brief interim with the endorphin pain killers.
It allows post abortion (carnivore consumption of newborns) and the food chain in the sea and ocean life to limit population imbalances.
Therefore, it has created all creatures as 'equals' with minor exceptions

That exception is that the Apes are the Natural Gods 'chosen specie' because it gave them the 'greatest natural tool in creation', OUR HANDS.
So you can thank Mrs. Chimpanzee for this great gift and because of it, we have all these material goodies that the dollar factions crave.

Nature promotes a 'multiple god system with the following:
The Females are the Creator Gods
The Lion is the Weapons God
The Gorilla is the Muscle GOD
The Dog Pack are the Dollar gods as portrayed by the La Cosa Nostra that are the Hollywood godfathers, the Star of David portrayed as a 'hot dog', the Vatican Dogma (maybe Dracula?) and the chauvinist capitalists.

And finally, the spiritual world that has the evil spirit and the good spirit. Believe me, they do exist and are real. However, you will notice this only with your mind.

Socialism as derived from our US Constitution, is about the closest political system to NATURE because it gives us the essential needs and freedoms and yet takes care of our lives with the necessities.

The bible, on the other hand, is at complete opposition to Nature.

It promotes 'creation’ out of nothing that the Laws of Physics refute.
It promotes a deity that demands absolute obedience with the first three commandments. This promotes a 'one god concept'.
The last six can be considered generic and are OK.
It’s deity is a genocidal deity.
It portrays sex as punishment for sin. This is nonsense. Perverse sex can be considered to be sinful. But I would hardly call that punishment. Sex is more like a drug that creates the perversions and especially crimes.
It portrays the males as chauvinists. In our current culture, the males dominate and use the females as slaves while they consider themselves to be the masters.
It portrays the females as the sinners and a fruit from a tree as a sin if eaten. This is a blatant falsehood. Fruit and vegetables are our proper food source because they can be eaten RAW. Only foods that can be eaten raw are sanctified by GOD.
It promotes racism by forbidding marriages outside the Jewish cult.

This book does not represent truth.

NS

[LJP07]

So basically God is sulfuric acid in Venus. God is Asteroids flying through the Kuiper Belt. God is all things naturous.

Therefore:

1. God is no extra-super being that exists, thinks, or has spiritual importance.
2. God is another word for Coincidence. That being why we are all alive. The Laws of Physics may be defied, but Biological experiments hold truth in that all things living is a coincidence.

So whats your point? Nature is God. So if someone asks me what is Nature? I reply Nature is God.

Would you not be better off saying "Nature is Gods Work"

[Mike C]

Originally Posted by LJP07

So basically God is sulfuric acid in Venus. God is Asteroids flying through the Kuiper Belt. God is all things naturous.

Therefore:

1. God is no extra-super being that exists, thinks, or has spiritual importance.
2. God is another word for Coincidence. That being why we are all alive. The Laws of Physics may be defied, but Biological experiments hold truth in that all things living is a coincidence.

So whats your point? Nature is God. So if someone asks me what is Nature? I reply Nature is God.

Would you not be better off saying "Nature is Gods Work"

And whos work is the bible?

And do not equate the biological Nature (BN) with the physical Nature (PN)

The BN can replicate while the PN cannot.

The human 'stem cells' can replicate while the hydrogen atom cannot.

That is because the Laws of Conservation of Matter and Energy say so.

Besides, we learn 10x+ times as much from Nature than from the bible.
And we copy Natures inventors. Examples:
River dams (beavers), aeroplanes (bird flight), submarines (fish), tanks (turtles, sonar and radar (dolphins and bats) and there are others.

What do we learn from the bible? The animals do not need the bible or the popes to tell them what to do. Does that mean that people are dumber than the animals?

As I said, Nature is the greatest inventor.
Nature is the greatest artist.
Therefore, Nature is our greatest teacher.

The colorful birds, fish and the Natural scenery like the setting and rising Sun plus other things gives you an idea of Natures art.

You can credit the Jews with a couple of inventions from the bible and their 'star of David'.
Their version of the 'holy land' (HL)(REligious ARea, produces the word 'rear) uses their father AbraHAM, to represent the HL.
Abrahams two sons Isaac and Ishmael were his first descendants.
So using the psychology of these names, you have a 'ham sandwich'.
HAM plus Isaac (consumer) and Ishmael completes the sandwich with bread?

FYI, the Middle East is determined to be the holy land because if represents the rear of this 'geographical creature' here on Earth as determined from its position in relation to the Italian peninsula that is shaped as a human leg.
This was done as a copy or reflection from the Moons image that formed the expression 'The Man in the Moon'.
This does require some imagination.
The Egyptians were aware of this as they declared the baboon 'Papio Hammadryas' as a sacred creature.

The image in the Moon is the source of all the religions because it is a link to the female menstral periods. I am sure the females were aware of this first.
They then would be aware of their fertile periods that amount to about 10(?) days out of the 'lunar cycle'..Also, that image on the Moon appears to look more like a 'fetus' rather than a man.
The Jews being chauvinists, use a man (Abraham) as the holy land representative.

The 'star of David' represents the current 'hot dog'. Natural 'sea stars (Star fish(?) are 5 pointed.

So you can credit the Jews as the inventors of the ham sandwich later referred to as a hamburger (using beef) and the hot dog.
So these two fast foods are the primary sources of our meals in the US.

NS

[C1ay]

Originally Posted by New Science

And whos work is the bible?

Man.

Nature is nature. There is no need to invoke the reference to any God....

[Mike C]

Originally Posted by C1ay

Man.

Nature is nature. There is no need to invoke the reference to any God....

So then you consider 'man' as god?
Nature teaches the 'multiple' god system but we evolved from apes that the bible refutes and portrays an evil 'spirit' as god?

The lion represents the 'day' as the 'sun' god.
My article above presents him as a chauvinist 'weapens' god (fangs , sharp claws and the 'hair' armour around his neck.
Also, the 1st 3 commandments portray him as the only god or the 'one' god concept.

So how did 'man' supercede the lion as god?
Well, the Egyptians brought that to the attention of the western world with their 'sphinx'. You will notice that they replaced the lions head with their human head.
So that tells us all that 'man' is the supreme being and we can thank the chimpanzee for our greatest natural tool, our hands, that elevated us to that supreme status.

So, dump the bible and look to Nature as your teacher.

NS

[C1ay]

Originally Posted by New Science

So then you consider 'man' as god?

No. There are no Gods. Gods are an invention of man to explain the things he doesn't know the answers to.

BTW, your post looks kind of preachy. Much more of that and you'll be out of here.

[ughaibu]

I reckon there are three essential components in any god concept,
1) gods are assumed to control, but are distinct from, one or more natural phenomena
2) gods are assumed to have mainly autonomous volition
3) gods are assumed to be influenceable or controllable by humans.
So, humans hope, in the best case, to be able to control one or more natural phenomena by means of exploiting gods. In other words, gods are assumed intermediaries in attempted acts of magic, where "magic" is as defined by MacGregor-Mathers: "the science of the control of the secret forces of nature".
Thus even a monotheistic concept of god can not be defined as "nature", or even as natural forces, as gods occupy a distinct space that's neither natural entity nor natural force.
It's easy to see this by considering an example, a god of dice, clearly the dice themselves aren't god, neither are considerations of probability god nor the effects of wind or spin or any other element, in the phenomenal world, that might influence the outcome of a throw.

[Mike C]

I tried to post this article in 'Strange Claims Forum' but could not do so. So I decided to post it here as a reply and at the same time, resurrect my post on religion.

I thouight everyone should become aware of the existence of a Universal Mind. In other words, the spiritual connectivity of all our feeling and thoughts.

I will start by describing the links I have witnessed to prove to my satisfaction that a Universal Mind exists. When I was about 9 or 10 years old, my father came home from work holding his side and appearing to be in great pain. So, one of my older siblings had my father taken to a hospital. It turned out that he had an attack of appendicitis.

The link here is as follows: My fathers mothers name was Fanceska. My aunt living accross the street was named Francis. Her oldest daughter was named Francis (all above are deceased).
The daughter had her first child delivered by cesarean operation. This preceded my fathers attack of appendicitis. This coincidence does not necessarily convince most people. So, I kept this in mind for over 35 years.
Than, when I got a new job in a tool shop after a period of unemployment for a few years,
I was snag grinding and polishing (hand grinding and polishing) a 3/4 round guard cam that operates with a feed cam to move cutting tools. While polishing this cam on a SOFT polishing wheel, it grabbed the cam out of my hands and spun around and struck me in the right side of my abdomen.
I rushed into the restroom to examine the damage. There was nothing serious but a large red welt. So, I went back to work.
Now here is the clincher evidence that convinced me of the existence of the Universal Mind. The next day our foreman informed us he had to shut down the department for two weeks because of an ABDOMINAL RUPTURE.

I noticed other such impostant coincidences of sorts throughout my life to convince myself that a UM is a reality.

Mike C

[HydrogenBond]

If you look at the evolution of religion, version 1.0 was nature worship. This brings us back to our pre-human roots. Version 2.0 was connected to matriarchies that included all aspects of female creation. Version 3.0 was more politically correct, and gave equal rights to men-women, animals, big, small, and blends of all. Version 4.0 became a patriarch with one God. Version 5.0 had God becoming man, so man could become like god. The extrapolation of this last version, in modern times, has humans acting like Gods, allowing them to displace all the old gods and make everything in their image. It is not clear if this is version 6.0, since there is a tendency to use versions that are lower than 4.0. The chariot of helios is now called a UFO.

[Southtown]

"Remember this, and show yourselves men; bring it again to mind, you transgressors. Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; [I am] God, and there is none like me; declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not [yet] done; saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure; calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man of my counsel from a far country; yes, I have spoken, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed, I will also do it." -- Isaiah 46:8-11 web

In other words, wait and see.