Proof of God

[Overdog]

Originally Posted by MySiddhi

My logic does not posit a theory of unobservables...

Yeah, you said you see god everywhere you look, and that he talks to you as well...

Unbelievable. No proof. No evidence.

I'm outa here too.

[modest]

Originally Posted by MySiddhi

I never said ZPE does not cause the cosmological constant.

Obviously 1/2 hbar omega does not equal lambda. So they are related by not the same.

They are related by . If you agree with this then you retract your claim that ZPE is infinite. Is this the case? Do you retract your claim that ZPE is infinite?

~modest

[Buffy]

Oh my! Good example of why I so enjoy the weekends off with friends!

Thanks to ALL of you for all the kind posts and rep and PMs! Overwhelmed!

It is a marvel to me however how out of that entire post Mr. MySiddhi chose "implication is equivalent to causation," that being by far the most unsupportable part of his argument. Just really hard to imagine it being said with a straight face...

But as y'all know, "Pride goeth before the fall..."

Oh, and before you leave Mr. Siddhi, here's your hat!

Farewell the tranquil mind! farewell content! Farewell the plumed troop and the big wars that make ambition virtue!
Buffy

[Overdog]

Originally Posted by Buffy

...
Oh, and before you leave Mr. Siddhi, here's your hat!

Oh, I took the trouble of looking up Christopher Langan, whom he referred to earlier.

Why does this not surprise me?

Langan is a fellow of the International Society for Complexity, Information and Design (ISCID),[21] a professional society which promotes intelligent design,[22] and has published a paper on his CTMU in the society's online journal Progress in Complexity, Information, and Design in 2002.[23] Later that year, he presented a lecture on his CTMU at ISCID's Research and Progress in Intelligent Design (RAPID) conference.[24] In 2004, Langan contributed a chapter to Uncommon Dissent, a collection of essays that question evolution and promote intelligent design, edited by ISCID cofounder and leading intelligent design proponent William Dembski.[25]

Christopher Michael Langan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[MySiddhi]

Originally Posted by modest

They are related by . If you agree with this then you retract your claim that ZPE is infinite. Is this the case? Do you retract your claim that ZPE is infinite?

~modest

http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0506/0506017.pdf

Some of the problems with "ZPE = dark energy" include;

The expression for the density of ZPE, was written down in an ambiguous manner; It is divergent at k→∞ limit; an arbitrary energy cutoff was chosen; No one knows exactly how many varieties of different fields should be added; No one really understands why this positive vac rho would lead to negative pressure of dark energy; No one can concretely explain how this negative (but isotropic) pressure exerts an outward repulsive force on a supernova to render it accelerating; And the theoretical estimation of vac rho differs in a ratio from that of observation as absurd as >10^120.

[InfiniteNow]

That's not relevant to the thrust of this thread. I am still awaiting your proof of god, as I'm sure others are as well.

[MySiddhi]

Originally Posted by Buffy

Oh my! Good example of why I so enjoy the weekends off with friends!

Thanks to ALL of you for all the kind posts and rep and PMs! Overwhelmed!

It is a marvel to me however how out of that entire post Mr. MySiddhi chose "implication is equivalent to causation," that being by far the most unsupportable part of his argument. Just really hard to imagine it being said with a straight face...

But as y'all know, "Pride goeth before the fall..."

Oh, and before you leave Mr. Siddhi, here's your hat!

Farewell the tranquil mind! farewell content! Farewell the plumed troop and the big wars that make ambition virtue!
Buffy

Do you concede that implication suggests causation and is correlation? And that implication necessarily is causation when there is zero possibility for missing variables?

I underline your straw man fallacy for you.

[MySiddhi]

Originally Posted by Overdog

Oh, I took the trouble of looking up Christopher Langan, whom he referred to earlier.

Why does this not surprise me?

He was going to be placed as the smartest man in the world in the guineas book of world records until they removed that category for "political correctness".

He has resolved several paradoxes in philosophy as well as provided the meta logical space for the "set of all sets", including giving a model for intelligent evolution.

[MySiddhi]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

That's not relevant to the thrust of this thread. I am still awaiting your proof of god, as I'm sure others are as well.

I will wait for "modest" and "Buffy" to concede their best arguments where completely destroyed by yours truly... until I respond to anything else they have to say.

I wouldn't want them to be disingenuous on who's points have been being destroyed throughout this thread... for the sake of those who cannot comprehend our arguments.

But if you see a particular point that you feel is extraordinarily relevant to a refutation of my proof please highlight it for me that I may respond promptly.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by MySiddhi

I will wait for "modest" and "Buffy" to concede their best arguments where completely destroyed by yours truly... until I respond to anything else they have to say.

I wouldn't want them to be disingenuous on who's points have been being destroyed throughout this thread... for the sake of those who cannot comprehend our arguments.

But if you see a particular point that you feel is extraordinarily relevant to a refutation of my proof please highlight it for me that I may respond promptly.

Extraordinarily relevant point? Hmm... okay.

Please show us all exactly where it is that you believe you "completely destroyed" the "best arguments" of Modest and Buffy.


I'm just not seeing it. All I'm seeing is self-delusional arrogance. I'm familiar with it, have done it myself on more than one occasion. However, I would prefer to see 1) your proof of god, and 2) where you "completely destroyed" Buffy and Modest.


Thanks for your willingness toward "prompt" response.