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Old 08-24-2009   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Why We Need Any Religions?

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This doesn't make any sense.
It makes perfect sense, as science doesn't work in the following 3 cases,

1. something existing but science is not advance enough to discover. For example, electrions in stone age.

2. something beyond this 3D spatial material world

3. something that is not existing.


And in any of the above cases, you need faith to believe as sicence dosn't work.
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It makes perfect sense, as science doesn't work in the following 3 cases,

1. something existing but science is not advance enough to discover. For example, electrions in stone age.
Sorry to pop your bubble, but that is exactly what science is about - the discovery of new things.
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2. something beyond this 3D spatial material world
Like what? Describe what you mean, and we can rig up a test for it.
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3. something that is not existing.
Now that one had me falling out of my chair. If something does not exist, then it (insert drum roll round about... HERE) does not exist. Then neither science nor anything else will help you with it, because it simply does not exist. You cannot have made up this list with a straight face, surely.
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And in any of the above cases, you need faith to believe as sicence dosn't work.
You are too ill-informed regarding the most basic tenets of a)Science, b)Religion, c)Philosophy to have a serious opinion regarding these matters.

Some advice, and I mean it in the kindest way possible; go to your local library and read up some.


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Re: Why We Need Any Religions?

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Some advice, and I mean it in the kindest way possible; go to your local library and read up some.
OR...the internet. Register with the best science forum on the net, and ask some very knowledgeable people, who seem to have the time to give your posts attention, and are absolutely capable of answering questions like "is there is soul?" from the perspective of current science. But then... the Library won't treat you condescendingly, will it?
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how about just opening a dictionary
soul
1. the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part.
2. the spiritual part of humans regarded in its moral aspect, or as believed to survive death and be subject to happiness or misery in a life to come
3. the disembodied spirit of a deceased person

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does the soul exist while alive?
science is futile hawkins because you are referring to something that is intangible and a concept
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science is futile hawkins because you are referring to something that is intangible and a concept

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Then there is the idea of out of the body experiences, some people have indeed had some inexplicable experiences of OBE's, Dream states that seem to be real. Could these be indications of the soul? Could people who share dreams and or dream states be connected via the soul? Of course we cannot prove these things but they may indeed be the way the idea of the soul came to be. Once such an idea become wide spread it is difficult for people to stop thinking of it as real since their dreams and or other strange experiences seem to collaborate the idea of soul.


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