What's half of forever?

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What's half of forever?

It is often said that we are to live eternally in the afterlife. If there is such a thing as forever, then how it be divided up?

E.g.

A nice fellow lives for 80 years on Earth.

He dies, and pops upstairs to Heaven to sit his entrance exam.

After passing with flying colours (he'd been a good man) he learns that before him he has nothing but chocolate cake, accommodating brothels and cornflakes that stay crunchy even after the milk has gone.

Forever.

So, forever - 80 years = ?

His lifetime couldn't have been a fraction due to the very definition of forever. Does this invalidate our lives?

My question is this: can infinity exist?

+ anything forever sounds like a bad idea to me!
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Re: What's half of forever?

well forever can not be a number, since it is infinite.
so we can put it into a model to explain it.
how about....
INFINITE (divided by) TWO = X
x is half of forever.
woohoo.
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Re: What's half of forever?

I take it you don't know much about infinity. Mathematicians have done A LOT with infinity, since it's so complex and counterintuitive. Everyone can profit from a quick explanation about the modern theory of infinity, or at least of some of its findings:

* There are many sizes of infinity. There is a marked difference between the potential infinity of Arithmetic and Calculus, and the actual infinities dealt in Set Theory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_number
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph_number

* Infinity plus one is Infinity. That fact I think dwells on the obvious. Aleph_a +1 = Aleph_a (Example: Aleph_null +1 = Aleph_null):
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Aleph-0.html

Obviously INF/2 = INF and INF +1 = INF and INF + INF = INF
Of course, our mathematics don't necesarily apply to the greater expanse of God. We just don't know how a lot about the laws that govern Heaven, as to physical laws. Here on earth everything is temporal, changes, dies, corrupts, and justice is seldom served. Time as we know it may be different in Heaven, or not exist at all:

"And sware by him that liveth for ever ... that there should be time no longer"
Rev. 10:6

If we wouldn't exist forever, then we come to a point when we cease to exist, and my view therefore unable to be happy despite all our efforts and the efforts of God. That's why I would not accept the materialistic view that life ends at mortal death - because necesarily leave us in despair, and misery, without a purpose in life, or direction. There would be no reason to exist at all if we only existed temporally - that's my view.
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Re: What's half of forever?

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"If we wouldn't exist forever, then we come to a point when we cease to exist, and my view therefore unable to be happy despite all our efforts and the efforts of God. That's why I would not accept the materialistic view that life ends at mortal death - because necesarily leave us in despair, and misery, without a purpose in life, or direction. There would be no reason to exist at all if we only existed temporally - that's my view."


...who or what is it that lives forever ?



is not once around the block good enough?

..all this and heaven too ?

oh my!
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Re: What's half of forever?

...isn't there a character in the bible who thought
he would be like God and live forever ?

wait !! ...it slips my memory at this time

hmmmmm..

who was that fella ?

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Re: What's half of forever?

If on a numberline we can go from zero to a positive direction for eternity, and a negative direction for eternity... then wouldn't the half way point of all eternity = 0 = nothing?
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Re: What's half of forever?

But its the same for any number. Zero is just a stating point.
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Re: What's half of forever?

O, about that original question...half of infinit. I agree with loarevalo. Inf/2=inf
But thats in terms of numbers. as loarevalo put it...that doesn't put into accounts of other laws that we do not know about.

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Jerryo, do u not want more? Just wondering...

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Re: What's half of forever?

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If on a numberline we can go from zero to a positive direction for eternity, and a negative direction for eternity... then wouldn't the half way point of all eternity = 0 = nothing?
No that would be 2(inf)/2 = inf

Why the existence of the concept of eternity in temporal beings?
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