[NORMANBOND007]

Is Science the answer to how we are here and does it tell us why we are here? or Could it be that Religion is the answer of how and why are we here?

[Calminian]

Originally Posted by NORMANBOND007

Is Science the answer to how we are here and does it tell us why we are here? or Could it be that Religion is the answer of how and why are we here?

I'm not a scientist but I know from scientists that scientific investigation is only useful in studying natural processes. If a supernatural God actually created this world via miracles (additions to natural processes) then scientific investigation will not be an effective tool (at least by itself) in discerning that truth. Science does not prove naturalism, it merely assumes naturalism because it must. Now in the christian wolrdview miracles (additions to natural processes) are very rare events and therefore christians consider science a very valuable tool. But they also see it's limits when delving into areas such as origins.

[kamil]

Originally Posted by NORMANBOND007

Is Science the answer to how we are here and does it tell us why we are here? or Could it be that Religion is the answer of how and why are we here?

First off all, god created the universe and all its physical properties. Now humans are investigating these physical properties. So how can science and god be in contradiction.
I hate it when people only believe in one and think the other is wrong

[Calminian]

Originally Posted by kamil

First off all, god created the universe and all its physical properties.

I agree.

Originally Posted by kamil

Now humans are investigating these physical properties. So how can science and god be in contradiction.

All scientific investigation is conducted under the assumptions of naturalism. That is to say for a scientist to speculate about the past, he must assume there have been no additions to natural processes. This is not to say that science and God contradict. It merely means that science can neither verify nor falsify a miracle. All scientists agree with this. The conflict is not between science and God, but between the starting presuppositions about what God may or may not have done in the beginning.

Originally Posted by kamil

I hate it when people only believe in one and think the other is wrong

I do too. But I hate it more when people think science proves their naturalistic assumptions.

[UncleAl]

Originally Posted by NORMANBOND007

Is Science the answer to how we are here and does it tell us why we are here? or Could it be that Religion is the answer of how and why are we here?

1) There is no "why."
2) Pray on a light bulb. (If you may substitute a fluorescent lamp, sodium vapor lamp, light-emitting diode, electroluminescent panel, argon short arc lamp, microwave-pumped sulfur lamp... pray until you see the light. We'll wait.)

Hindus have 36 crores of gods - that's 360 million deities. How is India doing? Hint: the whole of India has fewer flush toilets than the US state of Colorado.

[Calminian]

Originally Posted by UncleAl

1) There is no "why."

Please clarify this Uncle Al. Are you saying science can't tell us about whys or that our existence itself has no purpose?

If the latter do you think science has proven this?

Originally Posted by UncleAl

Hindus have 36 crores of gods - that's 360 million deities. How is India doing? Hint: the whole of India has fewer flush toilets than the US state of Colorado.

I'd like to offer some perspective on this. Yes what you say above is true. Now lets look at nations that have been dominate by godless philosophies. Where would you rather live, in India or under a communist regime like the one in N. Korea? Hitler and Stalin were devout evolutionists. Communism was built on atheism and more were murdered by this movement than by all the religious wars of history. It's true, religions and religious people can even do evil. Evil has indeed been done in the name of christianity. But by far the most evil societies are those based on atheism. You merely need to check the guinness book of world records to confirm this.

[dduckwessel]

Originally Posted by NORMANBOND007

Is Science the answer to how we are here and does it tell us why we are here? or Could it be that Religion is the answer of how and why are we here?

'Religion' (man's interpretation) and the Bible are 'not' the same things - but the Bible and science (as it observes nature which is God's creation) are!

Science and the Bible should be working together because the same person supposedly inspired them both.

[rockytriton]

Science searches for the answer to "how" we are here, regligion is the search for the answer to "why" we are here. Unfortuntely there is nothing scientific about religion so most of it is just blind belief in what your parents told you and your parents' parents told them.

[dduckwessel]

Originally Posted by kamil

First off all, god created the universe and all its physical properties. Now humans are investigating these physical properties. So how can science and god be in contradiction.
I hate it when people only believe in one and think the other is wrong

ah - someone who thinks!!

But there are simply too many contradictions in religious teaching for science to take the Bible seriously. However, if ever there exists contradictions over science and religion - it has to be religion (interpretation) that is wrong because nature does not lie.

[dduckwessel]

Originally Posted by rockytriton

Science searches for the answer to "how" we are here, regligion is the search for the answer to "why" we are here. Unfortuntely there is nothing scientific about religion so most of it is just blind belief in what your parents told you and your parents' parents told them.

Religion is wrong but the Bible is right - and the Bible contains a great deal of scientific information about the big bang, big rip, dark matter (is thin according to the Bible) - you are right though - 'religion' is not scientific.