[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Dark Mind

I see we might have a slight disagreement on what is meaningless...
Art adds richness and flavor to our lives, but in the pursuit of knowledge it is nothing more than something pretty to look at. Art adds no meaning to our lives, just something to make living our lives a little more comfortable.

___Einstein said the greatest scientists are also artists. Why? In art we have beauty & when one encounters beauty one encounters truth & when one encounters truth, reason is advanced. Much inspiration & advance comes out of misery I intimately admit, but how much sweeter to make that advance in art & beauty & comfort. A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down. - Mary Poppins

Autistically Yours, Turtle

[Dark Mind]

Agreed. But still, adds no meaning .

[Buffy]

Originally Posted by Dark Mind

Agreed. But still, adds no meaning .

Well I'll disagree. Art does add meaning. Until we are all Borg, no one really understands what anyone else is saying. Art adds nuance that goes beyond pure expository explanation. You gotta *feel* it to really *get* it...

Geez now I'm starting to sound like Werner Ehrhard....

Clear,
Buffy

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Buffy

Art adds nuance that goes beyond pure expository explanation. You gotta *feel* it to really *get* it...
Clear,
Buffy

___Many gods also adds nuance. Why stop at polytheism, when animism is always at hand? The "one", whether you call it God or not, is the sum of its parts; there is nothing wrong with a little specialization as long as it is in support of generalization.
Like gold, truth is where you find it.

[Dark Mind]

... Werner whos-a-what...

Anyway, I'm agreeing with all of these statements... up until your all saying art gives meaning to life. Could you please explicitly elaborate on how this is so so that it might just sink into my thick head so that I may either accept it or be able to challenge it with a new level of understanding.

[Dark Mind]

... Maybe I should just accept this on a general level? Or are you trying to say art gives meaning to our lives in a deep and meaningful way? Maybe these are the one and the same to you...

I don't know...

I think I'm thinking too deep into this .

[Buffy]

Its the "Aha!" "Eureka! I got it!" "Oh, *that's* what she meant" moment when the light bulb goes on, the lightning strikes your forehead, etc. etc. etc. Its when you *understand* not because someone *told* you, but some set of things all clicked in your brain at once and suddenly what was once not at all clear now is. This is *not* spiritual, it also happens when you finally really understand integral calculus or Special Relativity or whatever.

What you seem to be missing from the above posts, Dark, is that the art part is not a "separate meaning" so much as "supporting meaning", you get a *better* understanding of something with stuff that's "all touchy feely"... A bad but common example is that talking about sex and experiencing it are fundamentally different: the book learning can help, but you gotta do it yourself to "understand"...

Enlightening,
Buffy

[Dark Mind]

Huh...


OHHHhhhh .

Thanks Buffy.

[infamous]

Originally Posted by Buffy

What you seem to be missing from the above posts, Dark, is that the art part is not a "separate meaning" so much as "supporting meaning", you get a *better* understanding of something with stuff that's "all touchy feely"...

Enlightening,
Buffy

Websters; "meaningful"..........having a degree of importance

Exactly Buffy, it's the meaningfulness one gets when they open a birthday card that a loved on has sent. It's knowing that someone cares, it's knowing that just maybe your worth a bit more than the dirt under your feet. It knowing that your not completely alone in this great big world. Art helps develop the soul of man, liberating his creative power and giving him a feeling of worth. Certainly meaningful by any definition. Art and the love thereof expose what mankind thinks of himself.

[BEAKER]

Originally Posted by infamous

Websters; "meaningful"..........having a degree of importance

Art and the love thereof expose what mankind thinks of himself.

What a great quote!
As it is written, " ...Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks."
And I would add - ...The painter paints; the musician composes; the scientist declares.