where and when was God formed?

[mike89]

there are so many skeptics about how the universe was formed and resort to god.... he did it.... well where did he come from then? At some point in time he had to of been formed, so at whihc point in time and where was he "formed"?

[orbsycli]

so when humans suddenly do evolve concious (i believe this occured from our encounter with psychoactive entheogenic substances, psychedelics, etc.)
we questioned everything!!
we realized we were questioning everything!!
we wanted to express ourselves!! bbut we didnt know how!!
WE NEEDED ANSWERS!!!!!!!

and our primitive minds needed something to answer our questions.
back before science, we blamed god for everything.
language occured, evolved....yada yada

now that we have science, god is just something of our past that primitive brains still hold on to because they can't accept the truth that they have never been exposed to.
too much shade in a closed mind.

[Southtown]

Originally Posted by mike89

there are so many skeptics about how the universe was formed and resort to god.... he did it.... well where did he come from then? At some point in time he had to of been formed, so at whihc point in time and where was he "formed"?

First I would ask where the laws of physics came from, such as spacetime, and causality. A creator-god would precede these.

[kamil]

Originally Posted by mike89

... well where did he come from then? At some point in time he had to of been formed

First of all, a time is an element of the universe, and because God created the Universe he couldnt have been in the Universe, so he wouldnt be at a point in space nor time.

[kamil]

Originally Posted by orbsycli

now that we have science, god is just something of our past that primitive brains still hold on to because they can't accept the truth

Well God created the Universe and within the Universe are humans, which use scientific method to discover what God created. So teh two are not in contradiction. The Universe was created and whatever created it we will call God. Where not saying that God is this or that, we dont know his appearance, just his infinite ability.

[infamous]

Originally Posted by mike89

there are so many skeptics about how the universe was formed and resort to god....he did it....

Some of us refer to this event as the Big Bang mike89.

Originally Posted by mike89

well where did he come from then?

One might also ask; Where did the Big Bang come from? Do you have any ideas??

Originally Posted by mike89

At some point in time he had to of been formed, so at whihc point in time and where was he "formed"?

Actually, before the Big Bang, theorists believe that space-time did not even exist. So without space, there is no where and without time, there is no point . My point being; God and the Big Bang have much in common.........................if you believe in the Big Bang.........I quess you are also allowed to believe in God.........Infy

[mike89]

thanks for the replys everyone.... the post was mainly wanting an answer from the people who believe in god. I personally do not, im just trying o understand how people CAN believe in God thats all. I also dont think "time" has always been, i think it was just given a name "time" and a measurment system to keep track of it. thanks again!

[Vending]

Just thought I would give my two cents

If there is a God, then by most definitions (i think) he is supernatural. By very definition, then, he is not governed by the natural laws as we understand them.

That is to say that there is no enherent contridiction with a supernatural being existing eternally or never being created. The porblem with idea arises when we try to fit a supernatural creature into natural contstraints. At least that is the argument I would forward

[TheBigDog]

You cannot know the origin of God without first defining the nature of God. Why does God need to be supernatural? Couldn't God exist, yet be wrongly credited with the creation of the universe?

Bill

[infamous]

Originally Posted by webenton

You cannot know the origin of God without first defining the nature of God. Why does God need to be supernatural? Couldn't God exist, yet be wrongly credited with the creation of the universe?

Bill

Interesting thought webenton; I would like to hear a few more thoughts on this possiblity.