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Old 01-09-2006   #1 (permalink)
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World Religions will soon end....

Viewing various topics on all the boards I feel that perhaps view of where the world is going is in order. People are becoming more religiously independent and feel less inclined to be active in the religion. There are some who attend at least once a week a religious service of some kind, however how many actually live up to their religion standards? Very few actually. The overall moral decline seen world wide indicates that. People have always done bad things in all of history. But the last century had more injustice and unmoral acts that any before it.

From science point of view what's happening is that people have searched for answers and wanted changes in the over world system works. The changes have made some improvements but no long lasting benefit has resulted. Most of the old problems still remain. Worse yet humans are not using resources of the world responsibly causing all sorts of social problems. Since politics and science will not claim their share of the mess they will instead point the figure at beliefs. Yes religion will get the bulk of the blame. The process is already in motion and nothing can stop it now.

Little by little it is already shifting. Religion and prayers removed from schools. Religious quotes being removed from public property. People are becoming spiritually lazy, having devotion of sorts but proving false to it with their lifestyles. Religious minded terrorists have put a fear and hate into the hearts of many. Religious attendance is down. Religious sex offenders being discovered all the time. Plus countless more.

One day the churches will be closed. The shrines emptied or banned. Religion will be seen only a personal level and very likely no longer socially acceptable to speak openly about. Holidays and religious activities will disappear or at the very least loose the original flare they once had with people. The governments will actually be saddened by the loss of religious political influence that once could be used as a advantage. Merchants and businesses will miss the money they made with religion and feel sad by the lost. The world governments without religion will unite as one and declare peace & security.


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Old 01-09-2006   #2 (permalink)
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Re: World Religions will soon end....

On a Bible based perspective . . .

Personally I find it interesting to see. Why you may ask? I myself belong to the fastest growing organized religion in the world. Yet I am also quite science minded. You might think knowing that this already in motion that I would feel threatened or concerned.

The Bible already mentioned a change in organized religion. It was already written down 1,900 years ago roughly by Apostle John while he was in exile. The events in the later chapters of Revelation in the Bible, mention a symbolic prophecy that describes harlot riding a wild-beast. What do these symbols means?

The harlot is described as having sexual relations with the kings of the Earth. She is called Babylon the Great. Also she is described as misleading the nations and is drunk on the blood of the holy ones. Why Babylon the Great as a name? Babylon according to scripture was the first city and culture founded after a global flood decades prior. When people spread across the world, they took their religion with them. Those beliefs would evolve into the religions of the world. Is their science proof of that? Yes. Many scholars will tell you how most cultures have religions that are very similar most have flood legends as well. Not to mention pyramid structures have been found around the world. The name represents then religion of the world, a world empire of false religion. Babylon The Great is drunk holy ones blood because of the various oppression and intolerance of other beliefs that seem to challenge those in religious power. Hence false organized religion has killed and persecuted those that declare Bible truths or seek a true faith throughout the ages. She misleads by teaching people what they want to hear and not what they need to hear.

The Beast represents the world governments. The book of Daniel describes powerful beasts that symbolized world governments and Revelation does likewise. The wild beast in Revelation has seven heads and it's body is a mix of powerful predators showing it's influence and military might. The 7 heads denote 7 governments or kings that affect God's people in history. Some these are mentioned in the book of Daniel years before they existed at the time Daniel was written. The seven governments that have affected God's people include: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medio-Persia, Greece, Rome, and Angelo-American dual power. The ten hours represent the world governments as whole across the Earth, as ten in the Bible represents completeness. There is a verse in Revelation that speaks of a head that was wounded then later healed. The political evidence would suggest this was the League of Nations that become United Nations. Revelation also speaks of 8th king that would shortly rise when Babylon The Great falls. Since the world governments come to together against Babylon the Great then this implies the 8th king in the scripture refers to the United Nations. The United Nations symbolizes the great beast as a whole.

The Beast is foretold to destroy Babylon The Great. Another scripture says that Jehovah will put in their hearts to accomplish his will. So Jehovah God is behind the destruction of Babylon The Great, as he has judged the worlds religions as misleading many according to scripture. The Beast is mentioned as being backed by the dragon. The dragon in scripture is identified with Satan The Devil, the original serpent, the one ruling of the earth. Another scripture mentions how Satan was throw down from heaven with his demons. Satan was often in Heaven or Earth prior (see Job) to that. Satan has never been in a hellfire, hellfire being non Bible based teaching taught by clergy and having heavy Greek influences. So Satan & Demons being cast out of Heaven is the beginning of signs of Jesus foretold return as mentioned in the Bible. It's a Heavenly kingship and not Earthly one. Jesus cannot be seen but his influence is felt through Earthly followers that are actively preaching on a scale that has never been seen before.

The point here is that the Beast is under the influence of Satan. Satan is the one that rules the world and uses whatever he can to confuse and blind people to the truth, so that may be judged unrighteous in God's day of judgement on mankind. When religion falls the End will happen next according to Revelation.

So that is my religious thought on what's going based on Bible prophecy.

Whatever your religious or non-religious views are the fall of religion is happening. Whether you agree with Bible or not the evidence of major social changes are everywhere. What are you the posters views? Don't be shy. Respect and politeness are required though.

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Although these reflect some of my observations you have the right to agree or disagree. For the sake of the post rules I refrained from quoting scripture directly and summed up the information. If you desire to speak in more detail on above subject matter then you may freely contact me privately for more one on one discussion. I am not here to convert people or argue either. Just spread thought and raise awareness of changing world we live.

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Old 01-09-2006   #3 (permalink)
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Re: World Religions will soon end....

Hmmmm
the wind was never born, it just sort of occured.
and i believe what say about the worlds religions,
but then when you got into that metaphorical bible hooberjabber i lost interest and decided to go get some quiznos.
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Old 01-09-2006   #4 (permalink)
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Re: World Religions will soon end....

Hebrew prophesy aside, I agree that the more advanced populations of the world are increasingly concerned with making money and buying things. Businesses don't normally set any priorities above that of profit. Politics are increasingly more like a business where job security is the main concern. Science, sadly, is just a hapless tool of those who can afford to fund it. Corrupt religions are, of course, just as big a problem. The question is can spirituality survive in a dog-eat-dog world? Or is spirituality all that will remain when the world is left in ruins?


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Re: World Religions will soon end....

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Personally it makes me quite happy. Why you may ask? I myself belong to the fastest growing organized religion in the world.
Interesting points. Exactly what was it that drew you to Islam?

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Old 01-10-2006   #6 (permalink)
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Re: World Religions will soon end....

LOL! Not aware of me sounding meta-physical or being Islam. Especially since I believe in neither. I am a first century Christian. Although my faith does not have clergy, human leaders, or churches. Guess which one?

My point was I believe there are religious and non-religious evidence that world organized religion is going to crumble into nothing very soon. Disagree or agree freely. The religious evidence I point to Bible prophecy. Non-religious evidence I point to the changing attitudes, trends, and views of the public and governments.


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Re: World Religions will soon end....

Well, you did say that it was the fastest growing religion, and among the majors that would be Islam. I am not familiar with "first century christianity," and if it is not a major religion, I suppose you could claim its the fastest growing, but there would be many who disagree with you!

Religiosity is growing everywhere except western Europe, where it is relatively stable. Religious participation is up in most places. The recent scandal in the Catholic church regarding sex offenders deals with discovery and omission, while it is clear that the rate of offenses is probably stable (the insistence on celebacy does draw certain proclivities I suppose, but that's another topic). Religious terrorists have been around for ages: Crusaders, Inquisitors, Salem Witch Burners, you name it.

Bottom line here is your proof is less specific than Nostradamus. If you wish to be convincing--as opposed to proselytizing, which you're claiming you aren't doing--you might want to get a bit more statistical. Even if you're just making expressions of faith, you'll find that claims that only your sect is aware of the imminence of the Apocalypse will be off-putting and even offensive not just to the irreligious, but to believers as well.

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Old 01-10-2006   #8 (permalink)
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Re: World Religions will soon end....

I guess I would be the Muslim equivalent of CrimsonWolf LOL, seriously...Muhammad had plenty of those 'signs of the apocalypse' prophecies, albeit in Islam's case, the mainstream body of Muslims are well aware of them, and consider them as historical record (because they are). Everything he said, is said by so many Muslims, with just the prophecies/names replaced by Islamic equivalents.

I don't think organized religion will be dying anytime soon
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I guess I would be the Muslim equivalent of CrimsonWolf
Cool! Welcome to Hypography Khan! We look forward to your input!

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Re: World Religions will soon end....

To me, the big question is; why does man need religion? what does religion provide that makes it important? since we can't prove the existence of a diety, and since people no longer are aware of the origins of morality and since prayers are not answered, why any religion? what part of your life is governed by religion? Europe has become dominately secular: will they be punished by God ? will the ACLU be punished for blasphemy? will atheists be banished from the earth? most people now want our government to be secular. is this not a rejection of God? is not the current mood of the people a gradual removal of religion from our society?
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