Is there a God? What do YOU think???

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: IrishEyes
And FreeT, I'll try to add an option, just for you!

Well, thanks for trying anyway. But that is way to tongue in cheek!

I gave the best option in my first post.

You should change the wording of the first option to:

"I do not have a god belief. "

This negates the "what is a belief" issue as it asserts that the person does not have one and does not require a "positive non-existence assertion".

However there may be those that wish to state that there is no god and that option is not there either. That should be stated as

There is no god.

The crux seems to be your personal addiction to "belief". What I call the "misery loves company" approach. That just because you are personally forced to rely on "beliefs" rather than FACTS, you want to pretend that everyone has the same addiction/ requirement. Thus you do not offer a single option which does not specific a requirement for a "belief".

A. There is no god(s)
B. I do not have any god(s) beliefs.
C. I believe that every person is God.
D. I believe that God is part of everything and everything is part of God.
E. I believe in the God represented in the OT.
F. I believe in the God represented in the NT.
G. I believe in the God represented in the Koran
H. I believe in a personal God or Goddess, but not the same one that written revelation based religions claim.

[Uncle Martin]

You missed one FT, since I've been seen as slightly arrogant of late,.. I propose another option.

I am God.

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: Uncle Martin
You missed one FT, since I've been seen as slightly arrogant of late,.. I propose another option.

I am God.

You da man!

I mean that, da MAN! lol

[geko]

On the subject of acceptance and belief (and to use this/a discussion group as an idea to lead with), i think (i think... lol) we can argue for the existence of something such as belief.

E.g.

A thread is made (is there a god? what do you believe?). An argument of the ambiguity of the question is a response.

The arguer believes that their response is (say) valid.

To assert that it's accepted that the response is valid is inaccurate because no question about the arguers response (e.g. "do you think this is true/you are right?"), has yet been proposed.


EDIT: As and after-though, I do think that belief can be circumvented by being carful with the vocabulary - likewise with trying to ascertain that it does in fact exist.

[geko]

Do i believe in a god? No.

Do i accept interference of a god as a valid explanation for any phenomena? No.

Will i ever? Doubtful. Why? Because i believe that needing its interaction for phenomena to happen is superfluous

[IrishEyes]

FreeT,
Thanks so much for all of your wonderful replies, examples and suggestions. I appreciate how much time and thought you put into showing me exactly how my poll is flawed. I really appreciate your insight. However, I am leaving it as is, with only the one special addition for you.
Yes, it is tongue-in-cheek, but I was sure you would get a chuckle from it.
From the looks of it, there are only 5 people registered at this site that are willing to cast a vote. And the poll proves that YOU are correct, and i was wrong - there are NOT a lot more people that do not believe in God at this site. There are just as many Christians as people that claim to not believe in any God, and one "other". Not anything close to what I assumed, but thanks for helping me 'prove' (es evidenced by poll respondants) that this SCIENCE SITE is overflowing with GOD-BELIEVERS! So stop your grumbling aobut it being a SCIENCE SITE - we know what it is and we're bringing God here anyway!! ;>P
God Bless You All!!

*rotflmao*

[IrishEyes]

Oh, and as much as I loved Unc's "I AM GOD", I thought geko's reponses were just awesome!! Thanks so much for being so honest geko. It was a very insightful few moments in your brain, but i enjoyed it. Thanks so much for sharing!!!

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: IrishEyes
And the poll proves that YOU are correct, and i was wrong

Well you should be used to that by now.

but thanks for helping me 'prove' (es evidenced by poll respondants) that this SCIENCE SITE is overflowing with GOD-BELIEVERS! So stop your grumbling aobut it being a SCIENCE SITE - we know what it is and we're bringing God here anyway!! ;>P

Like I said, that started this whole thing. You Christers come here with religious mumbo jumbo and then are surprised when they are exposed as the fallacies they are. Those FEW of us that DO base our thoughts AND POSTS on reason and SCIENCE are then attacked for being mean, angry, rude people by "loving Christians" that "are not better than anyone else" no matter how perfect their knowledge is.

And it is NOT "god" you bring here, there has not been a single one of you that has supplied even the first simple valid proof of a god, you just bring your god SUPERSTITIONS here. But it can be entertaining at times. Thanks for the laughs! :-)

God Bless You All!!

And may Satan take your childrens' souls to his eternal care!!

[wisdumn]

I believe in God and you can't prove I don't one of the MANY reasons besides personal encounters that destroyed my human intelligence was the words of a blind, deaf , and dumn girl and i quote:
" I believe that God is in me, as the sun is in the color and fragrance of a flower- the Light in my darkness, the Voice in my silence-- Helen Keller
how did she know there was color or fragrance in a flower and how did she know that the sun had anything to do with it. all she had was what others had told her- but that simple Belief of the flower and what she knew inside was PROOF enough for her. I wish all of you here had known about how i felt before i believed in God(although it would very much embarass me for anyone to know my former stupidity) i think you who do not believe in God would have seen very much of your same arguments had also formed in my head and that i could logically argue most opposition down with Complex theories and such. but what i realized the most after i had accepted God was that the whole time i was trying to disprove His existence to others was also the time i was trying to disprove to myself that i believed in Him without concrete evidence. well my friends, even concrete is another form before it becomes solid, and so look for solid evidence all you want, but you might want to check out the liquid and gas evidence that lies beneath your "lack of solid proof".

[Uncle Martin]

Originally posted by: IrishEyes
From the looks of it, there are only 5 people registered at this site that are willing to cast a vote.

You should give it more time. The polls I've posted took weeks to get anywhere.

we know what it is and we're bringing God here anyway!! ;>P

Not quite the omnipotent being you have described if he needs your help being a part of this forum,....is he?

God Bless You All!!

I'm not really in the mood for that right now. Maybe later. If you are real good, I'll bless you. Or I'll get someone to do it if it makes you feel better.

*rotflmao*

WHY?