Intelligence. Alien.

[Eclogite]

Right. I think you do have a confused idea of what intelligence is: on the one hand you open your reply by agreeing with my suggested definition, then conduct a discussion wherein almost every statement you make is at odds with that definition.
That makes it difficult to hold a cogent and coherent discussion, so I'll set aside the nature of intelligence for the moment and address some specifics you raised in your opening post.

Originally Posted by arkain101

The question at hand here is, Is it possible for a life form to become intelligent without first going through the same stages of social developement.

Absolutely. Indeed, we might well expect it to be the norm, though as has often been remarked it is difficult to predict accurately based on a sample size of one.

Originally Posted by arkain101

I conclude once a life form is able to attain the complex ability to develope a complex dialogue is only then is it able have a self awareness or self relationship.

You seem to have arrived at this conclusion based upon introspection. You cannot imagine having a detailed thought without using words. But this is because you are human, and the the human thought process is typically dominated by the use of words. I cannot think of any reason why this should necessarily be so for aliens.

Originally Posted by arkain101

Could it be possible to have heartless and unmoral like alien life forms that go around killing other life forms?

Of course it could. They are only heartless and amoral based upon your perspective, and that is a human perspective, not an alien one.

Originally Posted by arkain101

When it seems impossible for a race to achieve any kind of self awareness and intelligence without first developing a complex dialogue system and going through the types of things we happen to go through like civil war, global war, disaster, self extinction issues.

Again, you seem to have arrived at these conclusions based on a consideration of only the human condition. I think it is unwarranted to extrapolate that to all potential alien life forms.

Originally Posted by arkain101

I can not imagine a race of life of any kind reaching a point of high intelligence without going through a huge pile of trial and error which seems to inevitably lead to an state of being that cares for all universal things and life forms.

This strikes me as wishful thinking. You have no evidence to support this contention: certainly you have not presented any evidence.

Originally Posted by arkain101

Any advanced race should understand the preciousness of all that is and how easily lost it can be.

All the more reason, one could argue, for them to beat the living daylights out of any lifeform that looked as if it was half way threatening. That is, after all, the technique humans have employed as individuals and societies for scores of millenia. So, I have grave reservations that your description of 'intelligent behaviour' even applies to humans, let alone aliens.

[CraigD]

Originally Posted by arkain101

This topic is for the discussion on intelligence and relating it to aliens, regardless if there is or not other intelligent life forms out there.

Originally Posted by arkain101

By this [intelligence] I mean if a species is capable of figuring out the physics and engineering and other areas of study to the extent where they can travel light years through space and arrive at a completely new and alien to them planet or solar system.

Seems a reasonably concise definition of intelligence to me, and an interesting topic.

Science Fiction writers have struggled for generations to imagine intelligent beings with radically different histories of social development than our own. One example of this pursuit that I enjoyed and found edifying are the “Flowen” in Robert Forward’s 1990 novel Rocheworld. These fictional creatures are biologically very unlike any terrestrial life, being essentially big, undifferentiated blobs of tissue. They faced evolutionary pressures very unlike any encountered on earth. Although intellectually superior to human beings, and capable of human-like technology, they don’t have or see the need for it. They particularly love Math, and are nearly all versed in it to a level greatly exceeding that of any human. They are also fun-loving, and enjoy interacting with human beings.

There are many other fictional explorations of the idea of truly “alien” intelligence. I recommend them all to people interested in the question.

[arkain101]

This strikes me as wishful thinking. You have no evidence to support this contention: certainly you have not presented any evidence.

This is because I wanted to hear others thoughts on the subject. I understand how you are trying to understand some certain details to a precise point, but in the process you are overlooking the actual point. I do have my evidence and ideas and I will get to that, but after presenting the subject and basic circumstances I wanted to get some others thoughts on the plausibility of the kind of being one would expect.

As I will get to, I will explain further why I think there is a pretty basic system that I think needs to be followed for a species to achieve high technological skills and space travel.. etc..

im in a rush cant go on.