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Old 06-01-2006   #251 (permalink)
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Slightly long-winded, but a good reply, nonetheless.

Can't give you any rep points without spreading the love some, so consider yourself repped, SomeGuy.


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Yeah, why? Because I don't accept purported supernatural claims as fact without proof? That's the bottom line about religion isn't it, accepting the claim of a supernatural entity without proof? That someone wants to offer the Urantia book or the bible as evidence to support such claims is really providing no evidence at all. Evidence can be tested, these items cannot.
Yeah I dug backwards a ways for this. But what do we mean by proof exactly? Can it be subjective? Or must it be communicable?


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This just in:

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Believers will say their religion reflects divine will: that's the way God (or something) planned it.

But a less theological explanation finds support from an experiment conducted at a British college psychology department: Maybe that common element of modern religions was the product of Darwinian evolution.
http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/livin...macon_religion
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I try to keep the option of God open, since it can be neither proved or disproved. To accept something without proof or disproof is not very rational but enters the realm of subjectivity where anything is possible or not possible even without proof or disproof.

The way I look at it, the concept of God has been around for thousands of years in almost all cultures, past and present. If we set aside the validity of God, such a beleif appears to have an almost instinctive connection to humans or else it would have gone the way of horse and buggy. It may be a projection of higher human potential with God (memory focus) a proven way to touch these higher states of mind, i.e, conditioned command line to these higher areas of the neural programming.

For example, if looks in the bible, when they talk about people having demons, they may talking about being psychotic. The output result should look very similar. To cure one of psychosis or demons, without drugs, in one treatment, would require tweaks very close to the center of the brain's operating system. Yet biblical results are displayed as possible, by simply invoking the name of God (operating system command lines). Why throw out brain tools that have been demonstrated over the ages to be state of the art.

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Well, I meant the language I read in the Philosophical Forum, couldn't understand a word of it never mind a sentence. ...., It's a language native of the Germans.
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I’m an agnostic / Buddhist. I don’t believe in the things that were written in religious books. There is no evidence to prove or disprove the existence of a god. My interpretation of god is a little different than a Christian’s or a Muslim’s definition of god. God is an imaginary omnipotent friend in the sky for most people. I think humanity is god because we created the concept of god. The universe is god because we are a part of it. My definition of god could also be described as a life form or entity that is in control of its reality. (Atoms, molecules, subatomic particles, Ect.) I believe that it is possible for a group of life forms to evolve into some kind of super intelligent being that is capable of controlling all of the atoms in the space in which it exist. (The universe)

One way to think about what I just wrote is to imagine that you are the god of the trillions of cells in your body. Your motor cortex allows you to make voluntary movements. Medical science allows us to have more control of the chemical reactions in our bodies. Nanotechnology will give us even more control of our bodies is the coming decades.
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I'm still a little confused as to what the difference is between an Agnostic and Atheist believer? Could someone clarify this is plain simple english and not philosophical language
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Agnostic: someone who doesn't know if there is a god or not

Atheist: someone who claims their is no god

There is a large gray area between the two.
I once heard a science fiction writer state "An agnostic is an cowardly atheist"
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Agnostic: someone who doesn't know if there is a god or not

Atheist: someone who claims their is no god

There is a large gray area between the two.
I once heard a science fiction writer state "An agnostic is an cowardly atheist"


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