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View Poll Results: Do you believe in Intelligent Design??
Yes - Completely: lock, stock, and barrel 5 10.87%
Yes - mostly: but it has a few flaws 5 10.87%
No - Completely 24 52.17%
No - but it has a few merits 8 17.39%
I don't know 4 8.70%
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This poll is heading for the theology forum VERY soon.
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Asking the wrong question, really. It's not "Is there an ID or not?," but "Why do so many people have this need to for some ID?"
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Double sigh...
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I said this was only a poll!

but I knew when asking a Religious opinion ,that it is asking for trouble.
Religious belief polls get the most hits!


I'll start a new poll soon Tormod
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Plato would have agreed with you, a few thousand years ago.
A few thousand years ago the Ancients taught of an energy force which they called Chi or Prana. Western science for thousands of years said this was nonsense....until recently. With modern technology western science now believes what people thousands of years knew and taught about. Thirty or so years ago Harvard University said accupuncture was bogus. Now they teach it. So in your comment are you saying that Plato was absolutely correct and that it is unbelievable somebody thousands of years ago had such insight, or are you saying that somebody thousands of years ago couldn't possibly know what they were saying? Instead of telling me what Plato would have said, why don't you tell me what you say?

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Mr. QuantumConsultant dude...

If you want to shoot Science down, Scienceforums might not necessarily be the most diplomatic of venues, if you catch my drift...

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A few thousand years ago the Ancients taught of an energy force which they called Chi or Prana. In America Western science for thousands of years said this was nonsense....until recently. With modern technology western science now believes what people thousands of years knew and taught about. Thirty or so years ago Harvard University said accupuncture was bogus. Now they teach it.
This is not true. Acupuncture is not proven to work. Placebo is, however. New Scientist did very thorough research on this several years ago, and found that the healing process itself is more important than the healing method.

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So in your comment are you saying that Plato was absolutely correct and that it is unbelievable somebody thousands of years ago had such insight, or are you saying that somebody thousands of years ago couldn't possibly know what they were saying?
I think Plato believed what he said because it fitted his world view. In that sense he was a proto-scientist. The problem was that his logic was based on absolute truths, which are incompatible with science. Platonian teaching was not something you proved or disproved, and definitely not something you experimented with. So he was no more or less right than a modern philosopher. He was a very important figure in the history of thought.

That does not mean he was right - in fact, there is no way to test Plato's theories so they remain in the realms of philosophy.

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Nah. You can read around the forums if you like. My posts are all over the place. And not a single one of them will teach you the absolute Truth, nor bless you.
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A few thousand years ago the Ancients taught of an energy force which they called Chi or Prana. Western science for thousands of years said this was nonsense....until recently.
I agree QC.
Chi and Prana!

The point is this is a POLL!

Vote, say 1 line or 2, and then continue discussion in Philosophy or Theology Forums.

Macarroni sounds good right now.

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You really need to brush up on your arguments. Most of this universe *is* vacuum, even if it's not *perfect* vacuum.
It is only a vacuum by the Newtonion definition. Quantum theory says otherwise. Like I said, we all have our opinions based on our limited consciousness through which we seek to know and explain. Quantum physics has taken us way beyond what you have learned in school. You are now trying to argue from this limited position from which you sit. But because you can't see the whole picture, you cannot know where you sit. Quantum physics says there is no such thing as a vacuum in the Newtonion sense. Ancient knowledge has taught this very same thing.

I'm not trying to bring theology or spirituality into science. The two are already inextricably linked. An in-depth study of quantum physics and the teachings of the Ancients of thousands of years ago will show the student that both teachings are actually one in the same.

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I'm not trying to bring theology or spirituality into science.
Did anyone claim you were?
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