Intelligent Design POLL

[Boerseun]

Hehehe...

QC, sorry if my typing's a bit erratic, I'm trying to keep a straight face here.

Just tell me one thing: Are you for real?

You have:

NO IDEA how science works.

This being the case, please refer to this forum's name: SCIENCEforums.com...



Have you been to www.randi.org yet?

[IrishEyes]

Originally Posted by QuantumConsultant

The evidence you have presented in this forum, gentlemen, speaks for itself.

I think you need to remember that, if not for the gentlemen that you are choosing to disparage, THIS forum would not exist at all. Keep that in mind when you are going on about people being unscientific.

While I may not agree with every thought or idea that is presented here, I have never ceased to appreciate the fact that there is a place for so many different thoughts and ideas. If you are not finding the audience that you seek in this thread, do as Tormod suggests and head for the Theology forum.

[QuantumConsultant]

Originally Posted by Boerseun

You have:

NO IDEA how science works.

Very intellectually and scientifically stimulating comment but I'm still waiting for some genuine input from you on the ideas at hand. Or is it possible you don't have any?

Your replies do nothing but illustrate my point.

[QuantumConsultant]

Originally Posted by IrishEyes

I think you need to remember that, if not for the gentlemen that you are choosing to disparage, THIS forum would not exist at all. Keep that in mind when you are going on about people being unscientific.

So you are saying that I should tip-toe around these guy's egos and the fact that they have not contributed anything intellectually to the topics at hand simply because they are the developers of this forum?

I guess you are right. I will leave you children to play in your sand box. There obviously is not intelligent conversation to be found here.

Adios

[TheFaithfulStone]

Originally Posted by QuantumConsultant

I guess you are right. I will leave you children to play in your sand box. There obviously is not intelligent conversation to be found here.

Adios

And in that way, it's like most conversations with Intelligent Design advocates.

Or, as I like to call them ID-iots.

TFS
[oo snap. just kidding guys.]

[Buffy]

Originally Posted by QuantumConsultant

I guess you are right. I will leave you children to play in your sand box. There obviously is not intelligent conversation to be found here.

(I'm late, I didn't notice though: did he ever say anything of any substance? Or was he just practicing throwing anonymous epithets? )

Originally Posted by QuantumConsultant

Adios

Awwww.... Maybe if you give me your mommy's number I can talk to her and discuss your behavioral issues with her directly and we can figure out how to get you to play properly with the other children. Let me know!

Just to be clear, we don't want to discourage sociopaths from participating here--we recognize that its a genetically-driven disorder and we do not like to discriminate--we just expect them to behave themselves as they seek to become fine upstanding citizens.

Welcome to Hypography!
Buffy

[MagnetMan]

Originally Posted by QuantumConsultant

So you are saying that I should tip-toe around these guy's egos and the fact that they have not contributed anything intellectually to the topics at hand simply because they are the developers of this forum?

I guess you are right. I will leave you children to play in your sand box. There obviously is not intelligent conversation to be found here.

Adios

I would be sorry to see you go and I know there are others here who feel the same. Your detractors are barely old enough to call themselves adults, certainly notr masters - yet believe they have the answers to all things on Earth and in Heaven. Faith, Hope and Charity cannot be found in any page of any of the mechanical manuals they lean on. Their rudeness should be ignored. I made the mistake of sinking to that level in defence of a Truth I believed in, and regret it. I sincerely hope you will reconsider and stay and continue the good fight. New Age thought will suffer the same redicule that science once suffered under. It is human nature to fear new ideas, only the brave keep their minds and hearts open.

[Buffy]

Originally Posted by MagnetMan

Your detractors are barely old enough to call themselves adults, certainly notr masters - yet believe they have the answers to all things on Earth and in Heaven.

So you're saying that its okay to call people children if you are religious, but its not okay if you are defending science?

My point above was subtle: no one gets anywhere by calling people names. Mr. QC is new to these forums, and yet he feels free to blast away with rudeness that would have his mother turning green if she could hear him. Worse, he seems to make his points by uh, "reinterpreting" people's comments to suit his own purposes. Then he wallows in paranoid "victimology" and uses that to self-righteously yet preposterously turn the other cheek. Its a modus operandi that is highly offensive, and it doesn't matter what his opinions are about anything.

He's rude and if he gets blasted by the old timers here, maybe he deserves it.

What is more tiresome than anything, is aspersions like "believe they have the answers to all things on Earth and in Heaven" by people who likewise believe that they have similar answers.

There's nothing sadder than those who are so blind to their own weaknesses.

Pot calls kettle black. Both scortched,
Buffy

[Boerseun]

Originally Posted by MagnetMan

Your detractors are barely old enough to call themselves adults, certainly notr masters -

You pulling rank again, MagnetMan? I thought we've been through this already.
In Science, age means nothing - only the argument. Your airy-fairy 'master' terminology means absolutely squat. If you understand anything of science, you should understand that. You should also be aware of the fact that we don't actually give a rip if we qualify as 'masters' (whatever the hell that might be) in your eyes or not.

QC, you should also be aware that the burden of proof lies on your shoulders. You came with the 'aura' story, prove it now. I don't have to prove it's non-existence. I guess you didn't know that, either? Where's www.randi.org's deposit slip in your name?

Come, now.

[hallenrm]

I had cast my vote on this poll a few weeks back, and then never cared to see its progress, mainly because I am indeed a bit ignorant about this intelleligent design, and it is a topic a care very little about

But, today I casually opened this thread just out of curiosity because it keeps popping up on the list of subscribed threads in my user CP. I am glad that I did so after I had a casual glance at the discussions going on.

Let me now forward my opinion But before doing so Let me ask Boersun et al "What in their opinion constitutes science?" Is it a book of sacred truths that one must worship as long as one lives; or is it a method that propels one to find newer states of knowledge.

If it is latter, one have an humble attitude, about phenomena that have jinxed many people and about which the so called scientific methods have not yielded any positive results. Because neither the science nor the present methods of exploring phenomena are absolutly final.

One can say so, if one reads the history of science a bit judiciously. The thomsons model of atom was proved to be incorrect by the experiments of Rutherford (Thomson could not have possibly done those experiments himself). The Rutherford's model gave way to the Bohr's model which quite lately gave way to the present quantum mechanical model.

That is just an example! The history of science, abounds in such examples, that is the reason science enjoys the reputation that it does today.

So, my humble submission to some participants in this discussion, "please learn to be humble, humility never hurts, it can only help in the long run"

What do you say, my good old buddy Racoon, doesn't it echoes your thoughts posted on several threads in the recent past?