[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Stargazer

Religion and science are so different in method that they are incompatible. Religious myths come about by just making stuff up. Science is about making observations and looking at evidence and data.

Interesting point.

[pgrmdave]

I do not find some parts of religion incompatible with the scientific meathod, and I find others to be incompatible. Mixed up in religion is a lot of morality, how one should act and think, how we should treat each other. Science has no morality (I'm not saying it's immoral, simply that the scientific meathod has nothing to do with morality). In this regard, they are 'compatible', as they do not contradict each other. Religion, however, seems ill-equipped to talk about the empirical world, just as science is ill-equipped to talk about philosophy, or morality.

[shadow]

Originally Posted by pgrmdave

I do not find some parts of religion incompatible with the scientific meathod, and I find others to be incompatible. Mixed up in religion is a lot of morality, how one should act and think, how we should treat each other. Science has no morality (I'm not saying it's immoral, simply that the scientific meathod has nothing to do with morality). In this regard, they are 'compatible', as they do not contradict each other.

Dave,

How's it going? Alright , I hope.

"...philosophy, or morality, and spirituality, I might add.

That is still more elusive for the 'scientists' , I think.

later,

shadow

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by shadow

Dave,

How's it going? Alright , I hope.

"...philosophy, or morality, and spirituality, I might add.

That is still more elusive for the 'scientists' , I think.

later,

shadow

Dave's not here. Things are just peachy however; thanks for asking. Science is perfectly capable to handle this material with its method. Either you can show up with your angel or spirit guide or demon or what-have-you, or you can't. Since you can't, your speculations are more than useless, they are inefficient & detrimental to the system of human advancement. It is a sad state of affairs when grown people rely on outrageous fiction in ancient writings rather than science to understand the world.
I expect no less than a direct & current reply from your private deity to support any such claims. Put up, or shut up.

[shadow]

Originally Posted by Turtle

Dave's not here. Things are just peachy however; thanks for asking.

. Either you can show up with your angel or spirit guide or demon or what-have-you, or you can't. Since you can't, your speculations are more than useless, they are inefficient & detrimental to the system of human advancement. It is a sad state of affairs when grown people rely on outrageous fiction in ancient writings rather than science to understand the world.
I expect no less than a direct & current reply from your private deity to support any such claims. Put up, or shut up.

Hey what's up,

I agree with you on that.

If what you mean is this material world. This world of matter was made for the scientists. The spiritual world is another story.

What's so good about this material world if you cannot escape your own death? It's only temporary and you can't take nothing with you. Be thankful that you can take your mind when you go.

I don't rely on ancient writings. I deal with the spirits directly.

Would you like a visit by an angel of light or an angel of death?

Call them anytime when you're unable to go to sleep. You can leave the light on. Or if you have the guts, turn off the radio and all the lights and ask them if they are really friends of 'Shadow'. You'll get some sign. Just give it at least a couple of tries.

ain't bullsh----- man,

shadow

P.S. There's some dialogue in the introduction forum if you like. I haven't found any interesting threads here in the 'theology' forum. I like to see what people are thinking or inquiring about. I could start threads galore,but like I said, I prefer when a fellow poster has a question. Also, I am not here to peddle any type of religion. I could care less whether anyone is religious or an atheist. Actually, in my visits through the spiritual forums I have gotten better responses from some self proclaimed agnostics than from the religious ones. I am a Christian by culture. I don't belong to any denomination,nor do I have anything against any of them.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by shadow

Hey what's up,

If what you mean is this material world. This world of matter was made for the scientists. The spiritual world is another story.

I disagree. Since you're the believer, you send the angel to me & let me get a photo and an interview. Since you can't do that, your claim is lame.

[Boerseun]

Originally Posted by Turtle

I disagree. Since you're the believer, you send the angel to me & let me get a photo and an interview. Since you can't do that, your claim is lame.

Kudos on the lame claim.
You're a poet, and nobody informed you of that fact!

[Spiked Blood]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

Explain to me scientifically how Jesus was born from a virgin in pre-genetic manipulation times?

Don't know. How was Jesus born from a virgin in pre-genetic manipulation times? I'm gonna wait for a humourous conclusion but I suspect the punchline is already there.

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

How a boat was filled with two of every animal?

Isn't it seven of each animal, but two of each unclean animal. I'd like to know how christians, or whomever, explain him gathering up all of these animals..on his own. Don't things like lions generally eat people. What did he do, knock the lion out( he had a mighty punch that Noah) toss a pair of 400 pound lions over his shoulders and carry them a few hundred miles back to his big boat. What did he feed them with, fives loathes and two fishes... no wait that was the other guy, that one time.

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

How... whatever. One is faith, the other is observation.

Religion and science would easily be compatible, if there was one true religion that dealt in truth, unfortunately there isn't.

You can't mix the desire for knowledge with the need to be ignorant.

[shadow]

Originally Posted by Turtle

I disagree. Since you're the believer, you

shrug:

Dear Turtle,

You're on dude. An angel of death for you. Don't worry, he'll just vist. He's not taking you anywhere.

You can laugh now. I don't know about later.


shadow

[Boerseun]

Originally Posted by shadow

Dear Turtle,

You're on dude. An angel of death for you. Don't worry, he'll just vist. He's not taking you anywhere.

You can laugh now. I don't know about later.


shadow

You are a strange, strange individual.

So - Turtle, be ready for the Angel of Death's 'visit'. Make sure you have all kinds of recorders, writing pads, cameras, etc. Heck - I think you should rig up a webcam so we can all join in the fun. Just remember to put some sort of covering over your sofa, I would imagine the Angel of Death smelling rather foul. And seeing as this is just a pop-in 'visit', you actually would want to use your sofa again afterwards. Would you make him some tea, served with biscuits? That'll probably just fall straight through him and mess your sofa up, seeing as he's a skeleton. So don't bother with the tea.

But this makes me wonder. If Shadow gets to boss Death around, who's Shadow, then? Some kind of uber-demon? Or maybe he's just Death's secretary, making appointments and stuff. If that's the case, Shadow, I've got this really loud neighbour who's a real pain in the ass. Wanna sort it out for me? How much would a surprise visit from Death to my neighbour's house cost me? Come on... I'll make it worth your while. It's just a wee entry in the Demonic Diary - can't be that hard, now can it?