Bible is word of God ...

[PetriFB]

Originally Posted by ughaibu

Okay, you want to believe, so what? If it's a matter of potential interest to psychologists, post in the social sciences forum, if you want to expound on the beliefs that you want to experience, start a blog.

Discussion about religion and the study of it. Covers all varieties of religious thoughts.

In that way is advertised theology forum....and so I'm free to express my belief.....in this forum ...

[ughaibu]

That is exactly my point, you are not discussing religion, you are making a strange claim.

[PetriFB]

Originally Posted by ughaibu

That is exactly my point, you are not discussing religion, you are making a strange claim.

The message of the Bible is so deep, that no one can ever understand the whole meaning of it.



Now faith is the substantiation of things having been hoped, the evidence of things not having been seen. For by this the elders obtained witness. By faith we understand the ages to have been framed by the word of God, so that the things seen should not come into being out of things that appear.

Hebr 11:1-3



From this Biblical verse comes the understanding that God’s acts and words can’t be understood other than by faith.



And as they were telling these things, Jesus Himself stood in their midst, and said to them, Peace to you! But being terrified and filled with fear, they thought they saw a spirit. And He said to them, Why are you troubled? And why do reasonings come up in your hearts. See My hands and My feet, that I am He? Feel Me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones, as you see Me having. And saying this, He showed them His hands and feet. But yet they not believing from the joy, and marveling, He said to them, Have you any food here? And they handed a broiled part of a fish to Him, and from a honeycomb. And taking these before them, He ate. And He said to them, These are the words which I spoke to you yet being with you, that must be fulfilled all the things having been written in the Law of Moses, and the Prophets, and the Psalms, concerning Me. Then He opened up their mind to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, So it is written, and so the Christ must suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day. And repentance and remission of sins must be preached on His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem. And you are witnesses of these things. Luke 24: 36-48



After His death, Jesus appeared to His disciples and opened their understanding to comprehend the Scriptures. Think about this! The disciples wandered three years with Jesus Christ and during this time they saw many miracles, which Jesus Christ performed. However, these miracles couldn't help them to understand the word of God and its prophetical message. Jesus Christ opened their understanding to comprehend the Biblical Scriptures



When a man admits his sinfulness before God, then God will regenerate him from above, whereby the man receives the Holy Spirit. By the Holy Spirit God opens His word to the man, to those who believe in Him. Understanding of the Bible is dependant upon faith and not on the intelligence of a man. Through his own understanding, a man can only partially understand the word of God. This amount is not enough to save us. The word of God, the Holy Spirit and prayer are necessary for an understanding that leads to salvation. Otherwise the word of God remains one book among other books.

[PetriFB]

knowing this first, that every prophecy of Scripture did not come into being of its own interpretation; for prophecy was not at any time borne by the will of man, but having been borne along by the Holy Spirit, holy men of God spoke.

2 Peter 1:20,21



I will add to this a few examples, which indicate clearly to us that the Bible has born from the influence of the Spirit of God.


Dividing of the continent



And two sons were born to Eber; the name of the one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan.

1 Moos 10:25



The Bible speaks about the great flood, which covered and drowned the whole earth. After this flood, the earth was divided into many parts from which different continents originated. Today's science is of the strong opinion that originally the globe was only one large continent. Continental plates have moved and consequently, our current continents came into existence.



The book of Genesis was written thousands of years ago. Where could one of the writers of the Bible have known that the earth was divided? The Spirit of God has been leading this verse to be placed in the Bible.



If you look at a map of the planet and start to combine the different continents, you will notice that they combine together surprisingly well. Scientists have proven with their own measurements, that continental plates belong perfectly together and in the beginning composed one continent. But for some reason continental plates have started to move away and have divided.



The Bible tells us, that the nation of Israel is in the pole of the earth, Eze 36:12. When the continental plates are adjusted to their original position, we can see one continent whose centre point is the country of Israel. How did the prophet Ezekiel know this? The Spirit of God also guided this information into the Bible.


Form of the earth is round



Have you not known? Have you not heard? Was it not told to you from the beginning? Did you not discern from the foundations of the earth? He who sits on the circle of the earth, even its dwellers are like grasshoppers; He who stretches the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in;

Isa 40: 21-22



The prophet Isaiah speaks by the inspired Spirit of God that God sits above the earth, which has the shape of a circle. In the 22nd verse, the word for circle in the Hebrew language is Chug - in other words, God sits above the circular earth. The prophet Isaiah knew that the earth is circular in form and he lived about 700 B.C., almost 2700 years ago.

[ughaibu]

I'm becoming quite anti-christian from the persistent b. s. from christians visiting this site.

[PetriFB]

Originally Posted by ughaibu

I'm becoming quite anti-christian from the persistent bullshit from christians visiting this site.

You don't have read all things .....me neither read such kind of what I don't like to read .......

[PetriFB]

The Bible tells us also that in the beginning, the age of the people was very high. Man could live over 900 years. This is often difficult to believe, but because the Bible is the word of God and true, then this longevity of people can't be nonsense.



Today, more and more scientists are suspicious of the theory of evolution and the ice age theory. Some scientists believe, that in the early years of mankind, a very large, worldwide devastation has had to take place. Fossils have been found from which have been found the remains of destroyed animals and remains of species of animals (for instance dinosaurs and mammoths). Fossils of such animals have been found in areas in which they wouldn’t live normally. This would prove that in the beginning only one large continent existed. Large lizard animals have become extinct, and many species are extinct. Fossils prove this. Also remains of animals have been found on the highest mountains. These all prove that a great flood has covered the earth and animals had climbed to the highest places to search for rescue, but the water covered the whole earth. From the highest mountain have also been found fish fossils, which is evidence on behalf of the flood. Fish don't live naturally on the mountains.



In Antarctica and Greenland, fruit and palm trees have been found. This all proves that in the beginning there was only one large continent. In Alaska, the fossils of lions, antelopes, camels, and horses have been found.



All these discoveries have been found in a frozen state. Many think that this advocates for an ice age theory and not for the flood.



Now we are also starting to understand that in the beginning, the globe was covered with water canopy. This water cloak prevented harmful space radiation from affecting the earth. Our globe was like a greenhouse, in which was a global tropical. The advantage of this water canopy was to increase human longevity by preventing harmful cosmic radiation from reaching the surface of the planet. It’s because of the cosmic radiation that astronauts wear space suits. Harmful space radiation is calculated to reach down to 14 metres (45 feet) under the water’s surface. The long- aged tortoise lives deep in the sea and some even live up to a few hundreds years of age. Comparable species on the earth don't live as long, but perhaps at the most up to 40 years of age. This water canopy really enabled people to live for over 900 years. The Bible also teaches that God decreased the age of man just before the flood.



The Bible teaches that because of the wickedness of people, God opened the windows of heaven and water from the sky fell for forty days. The water canopy, which protected the earth, now rained down and caused a large catastrophe in which almost all of mankind and animals drowned. When the water canopy, which had surrounded the earth, plunged down, it achieved so large a pressure, that it froze the North Pole and the South Pole. As a consequence of the flood, the continental plates moved and formed many smaller continents. Because of this freezing of the poles, evidence has been left which shows that the earth had been one large tropical continent before the flood.

[Edella]

PetriFB- Man you are all over the place,Pick one thing,maybe "Man could live over 900 years" and try to have a rational discussion with some members.You are really laying it on heavy Dude. Your style reminds me of a preacher from my youth who was so heavy handed,boring and obtuse,that I started looking into "non-Christian" explainations for what I saw around me.I went to the library and searched for any book I could find that questioned or critiqued Christianity. His preachy cold flacid style made me look for answers outside of the church,and,man,what an awakening for a 12 year old! What started out as youthful rebellion turned into a thirst for knowledge.

In retrospect,his incessant rambling was the start of a love affair with books and a beginning to the end of my association with the church.I credit him with single-handedly opening my eyes to other possibilities. On second thought,keep it up, lay it on heavy,there might be a young person reading your posts and thinking"man that sounds like bullshit," then googles "Christianity is bullshit" and he starts reading...

[PetriFB]

Originally Posted by Edella

PetriFB- Man you are all over the place,Pick one thing,maybe "Man could live over 900 years" and try to have a rational discussion with some members.You are really laying it on heavy Dude. Your style reminds me of a preacher from my youth who was so heavy handed,boring and obtuse,that I started looking into "non-Christian" explainations for what I saw around me.I went to the library and searched for any book I could find that questioned or critiqued Christianity. His preachy cold flacid style made me look for answers outside of the church,and,man,what an awakening for a 12 year old! What started out as youthful rebellion turned into a thirst for knowledge.

In retrospect,his incessant rambling was the start of a love affair with books and a beginning to the end of my association with the church.I credit him with single-handedly opening my eyes to other possibilities. On second thought,keep it up, lay it on heavy,there might be a young person reading your posts and thinking"man that sounds like bullshit," then googles "Christianity is bullshit" and he starts reading...

God has His ways to reach you ....... if we people fail ........

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by PetriFB

You don't have read all things .....me neither read such kind of what I don't like to read .......

Considering your poor grasp of linguistics, the probability that your interpretations of the book to which you so consistently refer are inaccurate is quite ginormous.