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Originally Posted by thedreamer

so mr. DCL What do you think about HISTORY and the makings thereof.
Have you ever thought about rememberANCE?

Ah history. I don't claim to be a history buff, but I do tend to read up on it.

But, I need to question your question. What are you trying to get? A definition of history and how it gets from real life to paper(or other media)? Or, what events make today, today? Or, the crediblity of the writer. Or, the simple fact that I didn't expeirence what the writer wrote about, so it's not to be taken to heart. But, also take it serious so I might have a clue on what to do if the situation the writer wrote about happens to me. A more specific question could be of more use to me.

As for remembrance, yes I have thought about it. But, only because I know how shitty it made me feel when I could remember and call someone by name, but they couldn't tell me mine. Or, how stupid people look when they're talking to me and can't recall key things in past conversations, and I have to help them limp through the conversation.

As for; wouldn't it be cool to be remembered. Of course, because you'll be looked up to by more and more people yet you won't have the power to control them, assuming you do want to control them that is. I look up to one guy for that very reason. I guess his name was Jesus. I guess he lived about 2000 years ago and acted very godlike. But, at the same time he was very scandalis. If he was the reflection of god or was god, how come he was such a premodern premadana. Talking about; Let the dead bury themselves. Fuck that, if you're such a great man you can say all and do all, but more importantly do both.

All I've ever heard were stories. So, I can't really pass judgement on the guy. Plus, he had to have some redeming qualities for being remembered for such a long time. This aspect of his life actually baffles me more than what he said, which is the main reason I'm willing to hear him out. I say if people can't remember about your life, they'll surely forget about your death. So this Jesus guy really made a impact on the whole world, granted he was so popular with the poor blind people, and he had alot of logical, understandable, hope redeming crap to say about the world. Now, whether the modern world likes it or not, is up to how well we can understand it the message of 2000 years ago. Something I've failed at doing up untill just recently, but I'm still not reading and decoding the messages with flying colors, more like splattered colors.

I'd like to say the reason his messages are so powerful are because they did come from some higher power, some spirt, probably the one he was yackin about in his day. But, that was his day, not mine. Plus, I see through that story, because this man in the sky, along with Jesus and his disipiles are just charactures in a book to me. Making them invisible to me, but I can still hear their words. They still hold no value in my life, and are not my freinds. They are a sentiment at MAX. They are the idea of freindship, and a good relationships. Which people will start to gravitate towards then grasp on to, if they can understand what these "Miracle Men" are saying. Then, the following of Christ begins.

I think it's important to look at what other source these men had for their stories. The only other one that comes to mind is nature. With the earth, sun, moon, stars all being factors. I mean, really the 3 wise guys followed a star to find jesus. You don't think they knew and were influenced alittle by mother nature?


I think more or less, in my time of reflecting and critically thinking, I have learned to appreciate the idea of a god. Because it can change your life, and if you have the right attitude you can live a good life. But, I also have learned how to have fun with the tools of the idea of a devil. So that I can really live life to the fullest. If I end up in hell for it; I'll have no regrets and I'll meet a whole lot of people there.


Something about something I forgot where I was going,
DCL

[thedreamer]

the thing about rememberance and bringing jesus into the big picture is the question of wether jesus wanted to be remembered or not. i believe, right now, that if i wanted to I could be the next jesus. i hate to say it and ive said it before, but what if i told you i was god. not I AM but I WAS as in past and or i WILL be again, as in the future.
if i told you, one day your children would look up to me and think of me as a god, would you believe me? Probably NOT and they will never actually know if I did or did not, they will probably never even think of it again. BUT, the truth really could go my way. One day your kid might be sitting down to eat his lunch and praying to me with a picture of my image on his wall or a statue of my image on his table. Who knows that except for the future?
i have felt that IF i WANTed to I could be the next god. Because the word god is the word from a story. And it is true (sha'LL I PRoVe IT?)
Now if you asked me if I could be ThY' FaTHeR I would most certain'Ly say NO because I could never be the HOLY FATHER> the creator and "GOD ALMIGHTY" never, but to me JESUS is a story god. who is jesus but a character in a story 'trying to "explain" religion' and god. but yet you look at him like a god? he even talks about how god was the father and his father. so what is that saying that god created himself. no but in a way yes, only because god created jesus who in turn made himself into a god. but THE LORD may actually not in actuality be offended by that, because if you are teaching of him it is not your fault but in actuality good because jesus taught which he believed in which was THE GOD. the father. just like every other religion. I look at religion and see storys, i look at faith and see questions and then i look at the truth and need not answers. i look at what everything POINTS to and get the first inclination. the first thought and to my knowledge and belief....the answer...you see...i lose myself too. I dont know where I was going but I do; I just cant get to there again.
i believe jesus existed and still does exist; not necisarily because he is god and all the powers and super cool shit but because he exists in peoples thoughts dreams and prayers. that is why he exists. he only exists because we let him exist. we was that good at what he did he got what he wanted and did better then alot of other people at doing it too. or maybe it is true and i am just going to go to hell for thinking about what i am thinking about.
but is it really long as long as i believe in something, because if it isnt then it gets me back to the same thought that i was on before.....so anyway and thank you..and thanks again.
theDReaMeR

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Originally Posted by thedreamer

theDReaMeR

Isn't it true that under christianity, YOU are one of gods children. So if you want to be as influencal as christ was, then it is within your powers to do so. That is, if it's your will. Because YOUR will be done just as god's will.

I think it's important to look at human structure before we look at the ideal god.

We as humans are two bodies, living in one. Meaning you can move one or both legs, and you have control over where they go. How hard they go. How long they go etc etc. Of course you have other body parts that have the equal, but different qualities.

It would be infinatly harder to live if; when you want to move your right leg forward your left leg went with it, at the same time. Or to just have one leg. To go forward your legs need to work together. They don't have to like each other, they don't have to love each other. They don't even need to want to know that the other exists. Because, my ego/subconciousness/spirt knows what to do and when to do it. I see the legs of a human as the good and evil of the world, in a figurative sense. One needs to go forward, then push back to let the other go forward. If one leg is working harder than the other, making it a unbalenced walk, you'll end up going in circles.

Now, the brain has two parts also. I'm sure you've heard right brain left brain thinkers. Which subconsiously helps you be book or street smarts. Book smart would be the knowledge passed down to you. Often they are directions, tutorials, entertainment etc etc in some form of media; books, newspapers, radio, tv, and or internet. They can help you learn from the mistakes of others, but under the same breath, can help you exeed your predisesor. Street smarts is what can keep you surviving. If you know better than to run down an dead end ally, when you're being chased. Then you won't get caught and hunted down at said ally. On the other hand if you know of a short cut you'll take it, increasing your chance for escape.

Both types of intellegence can be watered down to what's right or wrong. It might not be very helpfull to all, but for the few that it does help it will help them exeed. I like to say, "If you don't have both, you might as well have none."

I often made jokes about these situations when they came into my life. I'd say things like; "I got a cigarette, but no lighter." "I got a pillow case, but no pillow." "I got a car, but no gas." Etc etc. In some cases it might be a little bit more tricky. "I got a pole, but there's no fish bitting." Or something to that effect. As for my brain, having one side working harder than the other, is no joke. So I try to use them when they need and want to be used.


It's getting alot easier now that I know myself a bit better. But, with that now I know what tools I need to satisfy my brain, when I don't have those tools I tend to get nasty. Throwing controled temper tantrums.


If someone really loved me, would they let me get to that point? In hindsight will I be able to thank that person for teaching me a lesson? But, couldn't I of been closer to my foresight if they did what I wanted?


Life is a gift and a curse. Death is a curse and a gift. Depending on your perspective,
DCL

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by thedreamer

I AM replying to this post only because I like this person phic...?

yo dreamer.
this is phic.
Ya know, I look out at the solar system (BTW, that was all I created, the universe was here when I got here, but that's another story) and see all the cool stuff I created, like Saturn's rings, and butterflies, and rain forests, and babies, and I think to myself: not bad, not bad at all. Not half shabby for a gODD that had no freakin' "goDD procedures manual" to work from; no on-the-job training; no mentor to show me the ropes. Had to make it all up as I went along. Sheesh!!!

And then I read posts like yours, and it ruins my whole day. You have NO idea how much time and effort I put into creating "intelligence" on that fuzzy blue ball you live on--only to have you post such... such...

dreamer, do you know what the word, "drivel" means??? It's kind of a verbal equivalent of "drool", but without the saliva. Do you have any idea of the actual content of your long, rambling, and very boring post? Near zero. Why do you waste your time? Why do you waste MY time?? 348,000 freakin' years of selective cross-breeding, trying to nurture some smarts in your teeny little heads, and YOU are the result of all my labors???

Why did I even try. What a pile of rhinocerous patties. Maybe I'll start over again.

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Originally Posted by Pyrotex

yo dreamer.
this is phic.
Ya know, I look out at the solar system (BTW, that was all I created, the universe was here when I got here, but that's another story) and see all the cool stuff I created, like Saturn's rings, and butterflies, and rain forests, and babies, and I think to myself: not bad, not bad at all. Not half shabby for a gODD that had no freakin' "goDD procedures manual" to work from; no on-the-job training; no mentor to show me the ropes. Had to make it all up as I went along. Sheesh!!!

And then I read posts like yours, and it ruins my whole day. You have NO idea how much time and effort I put into creating "intelligence" on that fuzzy blue ball you live on--only to have you post such... such...

dreamer, do you know what the word, "drivel" means??? It's kind of a verbal equivalent of "drool", but without the saliva. Do you have any idea of the actual content of your long, rambling, and very boring post? Near zero. Why do you waste your time? Why do you waste MY time?? 348,000 freakin' years of selective cross-breeding, trying to nurture some smarts in your teeny little heads, and YOU are the result of all my labors???

Why did I even try. What a pile of rhinocerous patties. Maybe I'll start over again.

You obviously didn't do a good job the first time, you might as well hand that responsiblity down and just be the devil or something.

Where do we post our resumes?

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by DarkColoredLight

You obviously didn't do a good job the first time,...Where do we post our resumes?

http://www.eternaldeitiesRus.org

[KickAssClown]

In the lititure of the torah, I am translates more or less as I was and will be. So if you were god, then you are god and the proper statement would be "I was, am and will be god". In modern tongue.

Which, given the mathematic nature of the hebrew language, would be consistent.

I am = I was / I will be. This is to say that I was relates to I will be as:
giving the two a unity of one, which is I am.

In the torah, it is also said, that god said to moses "I am that I am" which mathematically tranlates as 21*21 = 441. Other translations of that statement come across slightly differently. "I was that I will be" is one possible, and most likely more accurate translation. The number 441 is the word truth, in hebrew. So god said to moses, "Tell them (the) Truth sent you".

[Boerseun]

Originally Posted by Pyrotex

...I look out at the solar system (BTW, that was all I created, the universe was here when I got here, but that's another story) ...

Hi Pyro

I did a stint on the other side of the Galaxy once as the local Omnipotence.
I could never get the damn rings perfectly round. I think it had something to do with either my lathe, or my measuring tape. The damn tape only wound out to about 300,000 miles. For the rings I had to park a dark-coloured piece of ice for every 300,000 miles measured, so that I don't lose count. The bastard who sold it to me guaranteed it for at least 2 million miles. And the lathe broke after the first icy moon. Do you think I ever heard from the sales rep again?

Damn those intergalactic hardware sales-idiots.

Maybe that's what went wrong with thedreamer. Not his fault, nor yours. Maybe you were simply ripped off and bought sub-standard tools.

It happens every time. But I can tell you, if I see that weasly little fella again I shalt surely smite him.

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by Boerseun

Hi Pyro...Damn those intergalactic hardware sales-idiots...if I see that weasly little fella again I shalt surely smite him.

That sounds a lot like Omar of the Evil Eye. He sold me an orbit adjustor. Look at Mars and Mercury. Mercury, for crying out loud!! You call those circular orbits????

[DarkColoredLight]

Originally Posted by KickAssClown

In the lititure of the torah, I am translates more or less as I was and will be. So if you were god, then you are god and the proper statement would be "I was, am and will be god". In modern tongue.

Which, given the mathematic nature of the hebrew language, would be consistent.

I am = I was / I will be. This is to say that I was relates to I will be as:
giving the two a unity of one, which is I am.

In the torah, it is also said, that god said to moses "I am that I am" which mathematically tranlates as 21*21 = 441. Other translations of that statement come across slightly differently. "I was that I will be" is one possible, and most likely more accurate translation. The number 441 is the word truth, in hebrew. So god said to moses, "Tell them (the) Truth sent you".

It makes sense up untill 21*21=441, and there after. Maybe you can explain, or cite how "I am that I am" = 21*21 = 441. Then, how 441 = truth.

Good work, but it leaves me puzzled.