I am not ashamed!

Mercedes Benzene · 07-28-2006

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Some hear with their carnal ears.

The first thing I thought of when you said that was: genetalia coming out of a person's ears.

InfiniteNow · 07-28-2006

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Originally Posted by stanleyg

To hear is to understand.

However, two people can view the same object yet see completely different things. Is one right and the other wrong?

I feel strongly that you will answer that there is no need for such a distinction, no right and no wrong, but how does that fit into the rest of your posts here on Hypography?

If you believe God wishes one thing, but I believe God wishes another, and our beliefs are contradictory, what then?

Please note, there are three distinct questions in this post. Cheers.

Freddy · 07-28-2006

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Originally Posted by stanleyg

God always speaks the same. Everyone doesn't hear the same. Some hear with their carnal ears. Others hear with their spiritual ears. To hear is to understand.

God does not speak to me and I hear just fine. This is why I say, "religion is nonsense". Next time God speaks to you could you record it so we skeptics can hear it too.

stanleyg · 07-28-2006

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Originally Posted by Freddy

God does not speak to me and I hear just fine. This is why I say, "religion is nonsense". Next time God speaks to you could you record it so we skeptics can hear it too.

His words are in the Bible pick it up and read it some time.

Freddy · 07-28-2006

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Originally Posted by stanleyg

His words are in the Bible pick it up and read it some time.

I have read the Bible which was written by men and a woman. Prove the Bible is God's words and prove there is a God.

Boerseun · 07-29-2006

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Originally Posted by stanleyg

His words are in the Bible pick it up and read it some time.

Oh... I see. You say you hear God, but His words are the Bible...

You've got the Audiobook version of the Bible. By the way, that's not God, either. That's some voice artist in a recording studio. But tell me, for the God part in the audiobook, did they at least get a voice artist with a fittingly deep, booming, bass voice? When God says that He's about to smite some wise-ass Egyptian king or somebody, are there lightning bolts and thunder in the background? How did they go about it?

Does God go away when you switch the tape deck off? Does God actually come on tape, DVD or CD? Older gods used to be vinyl, and even older gods than that couldn't speak at all.

learnin to learn · 08-02-2006

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Originally Posted by stanleyg

His words are in the Bible pick it up and read it some time.

I beg to differ stanley. The bible is full of words written by man. it is full of stories that show gods greatness through the eyes of man. And we know that everyone interprets things differently. Also during the middle ages, the bible was written in Italian, so that only the clergy could read it. The Church was know to rewrite the bible to fit their teachings. The catholic church was ,and still is, very good at only letting us hear and see what they want us to.
I am a devoted Christian, but stanley this is a forum for the sciences not a church pulpit. So don't treat it like one!

InfiniteNow · 08-02-2006

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Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

However, two people can view the same object yet see completely different things. Is one right and the other wrong?

I feel strongly that you will answer that there is no need for such a distinction, no right and no wrong, but how does that fit into the rest of your posts here on Hypography?

If you believe God wishes one thing, but I believe God wishes another, and our beliefs are contradictory, what then?

Please note, there are three distinct questions in this post. Cheers.

Still waiting.

pgrmdave · 08-04-2006

Don't forget the possibility that they are both right, but incomplete. Consider two people looking at the same object- one person says that it has three sharp corners, three straight lines, and is blue. the other person says that it has no corners or lines, but it is completely circular, and is red. These two statements are contradictory, but they can easily describe the same object.