I am not ashamed!

[learnin to learn]

wouldnt it be interesting if some1 wrote a version of the bible that agreed with the big bang and evolution?

[stanleyg]

Originally Posted by learnin to learn

I beg to differ stanley. The bible is full of words written by man. it is full of stories that show gods greatness through the eyes of man. And we know that everyone interprets things differently. Also during the middle ages, the bible was written in Italian, so that only the clergy could read it. The Church was know to rewrite the bible to fit their teachings. The catholic church was ,and still is, very good at only letting us hear and see what they want us to.
I am a devoted Christian, but stanley this is a forum for the sciences not a church pulpit. So don't treat it like one!

Religion is what one believes and science is what one can prove. If one can't talk about what they believe in a religious forum, then why include the forum under science?

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by stanleyg

Religion is what one believes and science is what one can prove. If one can't talk about what they believe in a religious forum, then why include the forum under science?

The Theology Forum (not religion forum) is relatively new to Hypography; it is a compromise in response to so many "religious" people joining the forum to argue "proof" of theologic claims, e.g. creationism.
At least Stan you have engaged in discussion here for once with this post, instead of preaching. I have to wonder why you chose to come to a science forum to discuss religion in the first place given your characterization above.

[cwes99_03]

I too wonder why some come to a place like Hypography just to spout unsupported religio/philosophical wanderings.
I am like Turtle says. I prefer to offer proof. Of course, I have been hobbled slightly by some of the rules initially set in place, but have been given leeway as my citations have not been to put others down but to show truth and provide proof. I strive for understandings of the scriptures, and if I am wrong, I will readily admit it.
What I have read of your works StanleyG is nothing of this sort. You come in spouting brimstone and fire and speaking of a personal savior, but you have no discussion of the matter. You spout, not invite and discuss. Others have done similarly.

I am not ashamed! - 07-25-2006, 05:36 AM

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I am not ashame to proclaim myself before our Christian assembly as steward of our King Christ. I know that if I am ashame of him that he too will be ashamed of me.

Luke9 [26]

Pharoah had learned of Joseph's anointing to interpret the meaning of his dreams. Pharoah appointed Joseph as the king' s steward to oversee charge of his storehouse.

Does our King Christ, whose kingdom is in heaven, not have equal powers to appoint stewards? We have been anointed by our Father God with the gift of interpretation to oversee the coming of our Lord?

Gen37 [5]
Gen40 [8]
Gen41 [42]
Rev2 [17]

I see above one question, which isn't really a question. And a statement with a question mark after it. The rest is a bunch of scripture quoted to attempt to support your position that you have been chosen a steward of Christ.
I could really care less if you are ashamed or not. I am not ashamed of doing many things either, but that doesn't mean that I pray loudly on the street corner like the Pharisees did so that everyone would believe them pious.
Perhaps you need to look up the definition of a steward.
steward - The man responsible for running the day-to-day affairs of the castle in the absence of the lord.
Sounds like a steward is chosen by the master.
Generally, claims of being placed as a steward over an unseen kingdom by an unseen individual will get you put into a looney bin. Here it will generally get you laughed at or have your posts tossed into strange claims. Since it has nothing to do with a proof (as none of your citations of scripture lend any proof to your claim of being a steward) your claim will just get you booted from the site.

Try instead to ask questions about understanding of scripture. Generally that will begin a discussion.

[Southtown]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

It's so humorous... There's only one truth, as evidenced by the bible, yet there are tons of different versions of the bible.

Yeah, I've run into a similar situation trying to quote Pascal. It seems that the only way to be sure you're reading an accurate translation is to learn the penned language, which then of course defeats the purpose.

[learnin to learn]

Originally Posted by Southtown

Yeah, I've run into a similar situation trying to quote Pascal. It seems that the only way to be sure you're reading an accurate translation is to learn the penned language, which then of course defeats the purpose.

[learnin to learn]

Originally Posted by stanleyg

Religion is what one believes and science is what one can prove. If one can't talk about what they believe in a religious forum, then why include the forum under science?

Stanley what is theology? Theology is the study of god and the relation between God and the universe. Nowhere in the definition of theology does it mention to preach to others about god, or about how god has influenced your life. If you have a hypothesis about creationism or how we ended up on this planet then I am sure that we would gladly listen, and give you our views on the subject matter.