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12-22-2006
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| | Contemplating about the nature of the God Suppose there is God, a supernatural entity that evaluates our karma and the awards punishments or rewards according to its own algorithm (the divine laws); how would He be monitoring the actions of so many organisms?
OK He is endowed with supernaturals power that enables him to collect a lots of information, but what would be His mode of gathering information?
Would it be collecting information about the action of each individual in the context of the circumstances of the each action,
or would it be through a gross overview of the status at a particular place at a particular time,
or periodic reviews to decide when an iuntervention is called for!
Alternatively, would He be monitoring the state of each particle (molecule, atom, proton, electron or quark) that constitutes the body of an organism and then the actions depend on the gross picture.
What would be the most efficient method?
Dare to contemplate?  :
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12-22-2006
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| | | Re: Contemplating about the nature of the God In my opinion, I have come to one conclusion in particular in which God is all of us and are actions determine that response. For example we have two people. One person decided to go out and induce arson in a housing estate. The second decided to go to church or socialise. The actions of the first aren't right hence one of two things might happen, either he will get caught and punished, which is right, or there will be a consequence and unfortunately someone might die.
As we can see the second person was the better choice to make which ultimately results in no harm being done. I believe God is everything that exists, the Universe and it's all. I don't believe it's a person or living entity but a body that is the Universe. This is because everyones actions determine how well we live and we base these on either the Ten Commandments or if atheist, the ten commandments which they call something else. But everyone should base their lives on these or their "own set" of moral principles.
So we decide how the world is going to end, Global Warming for example. Obviously our actions are wrong if Global Warming is being done recently and were being let know that we have to solve the problem, or do right. Under every situation this arises, so the majority will want to do right. This is my understanding of God in general. It eliminates the idea of what he looks like and what he's thinking or where he is and how he can monitor everyone at the same time.
We are part of God and we can see what we have to do to live right. | 
12-24-2006
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| | | Re: Contemplating about the nature of the God The nature of God, i think varies from culture to culture. Mark it I am
very conciously avoidung using the word religion, in its place I am
using culture. This is so because I believe that although religious
beliefs may remain constant, the culture of its adherent changes
through ages.
Take the example of ancient Indian culture that gave rise to what is
known as Hinduism, the religion. In the well known epic "The Bhagwad
Gita" Lord Krsna, an incarnation of God tells Arjuna the warrior in the battle of Mahabharate the following verse Quote:
"Yada Yada Hi Dharmasya Glanirva Bhavathi Bharatha, Abhyuthanam
Adharmaysya Tadatmanam Srijami Aham'. Praritranaya Sadhunam Vinashaya
Cha Dushkritam Dharama sansthapnaya Sambhavami Yuge-Yuge."
| Which roughly translates in English to, "Whenever immorality seems to have an upper hand on morality, I come to the rescue"
Thus, we see that the God, here, is not considered to take cognizance of each and every act of people involved, only when they (the acts) surpass a certain limit, the God intervenes.
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12-24-2006
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| | | Re: Contemplating about the nature of the God Quote:
Originally Posted by hallenrm how would He be monitoring the actions of so many organisms? ...What would be the most efficient method? | Let the system be completely self-organizing, and the rest is just balance. Put your initial parameters in place, push start, and leave. That's my approach.
Shaking the snow globe of existence...  | 
12-25-2006
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| | Re: Contemplating about the nature of the God Quote:
Originally Posted by InfiniteNow Put your initial parameters in place, push start, and leave. That's my approach. | Actually if you use your imagination InfiniteNow, that sentence could mean something entirely different!  | 
12-25-2006
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| | | Re: Contemplating about the nature of the God Quote:
Originally Posted by InfiniteNow Let the system be completely self-organizing, and the rest is just balance. Put your initial parameters in place, push start, and leave. That's my approach.
Shaking the snow globe of existence...  | The idea undoubtedly sounds very interesting, but considering its origins certain doubts arise in mind. For example, is the almighty God so farsighted that he would have known all the factors that could have influenced His creation, is there a possibility oh Him ignoring some factors at that time, knowledge and wisdom are usually the gifts of experience! Did He had all the experience at hand while creating the mankind?
If the answer to any one of these questions can be NO, then He needs to correct His mistakes, now and then. 
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12-25-2006
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| | | Re: Contemplating about the nature of the God Quote:
Originally Posted by hallenrm If the answer to any one of these questions can be NO, then He needs to correct His mistakes, now and then.  | Well, you assume a creator where I do not. I was responding as I (in the first person) were the creator.
The perfection is a result of the error itself. Random walks are more robust than rigid control. One line comments coming in threes tend to convey greater import.
Cheers.  | 
12-26-2006
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| | | Re: Contemplating about the nature of the God Quote:
Originally Posted by InfiniteNow The perfection is a result of the error itself. Random walks are more robust than rigid control. One line comments coming in threes tend to convey greater import.
Cheers.  | There are these old saying "The God made the human beings in his ownn image"
To err is human! 
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12-30-2006
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| | | Re: Contemplating about the nature of the God Quote:
Originally Posted by hallenrm ...is the almighty God so farsighted that he would have known all the factors that could have influenced His creation... | According to Hebrew scripture, yes. And even moreso as you come to understand the feasts of Yahweh (Leviticus 23) The Feast of Unleavened Bread/Passover (Leviticus 23:5-8) fortold the crucifixion and the accompanying Feast of First Fruits (Leviticus 23:9-21) fortold the Pentecost (Greek for fifty). The Feast of First Fruits occurs the day after the seventh sabbath following the Feast of unleavened bread: 49 + 1 = 50.
Note this seemingly out-of-place interjection between the above and what follows. (Leviticus 23:22)
We resume the feasts with the Feast of Trumpets and the Day of Atonement. (Leviticus 23:23-32) This tradition commemorates the (first) giving of the Mosaic Law at Mt. Sinai. (Exodus 19) The prophetic message regards the second coming and is of course not yet fulfilled. It lies wait along side its twin. (Revelation 11:12)
Then we come to the Feast of Tabernacles. (Leviticus 23:33-44) A memorial to the dwelling in tents by Israel in the desert following their escape from Egypt, and it foretells the birth of the Messiah. (Isaiah 7:14, Matthew, 1:22-23, Luke 2:7, John 1:14) Think nativity...
I'm currently writing a series on these feasts to spell out the reasoning behind these concepts. Here's part one. The next one, regarding the ark, will be truly delicious.
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12-30-2006
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| | | Re: Contemplating about the nature of the God Quote:
Originally Posted by hallenrm There are these old saying "The God made the human beings in his ownn image"
To err is human!  | There is also: "Man made God in his own image."
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