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Does the Soul have Mass?

Not sure if this is the right forum to post this in, but I'd like to hear some member opinions on this subject (the soul having mass).

I'm not the science or physics geek the everyone else seems to be. But that's why I'm here. To learn, not so much to teach .

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Re: Does the Soul have Mass?

Have a look at this wiki on Duncan MacDougall.

This thread might better be suited to the Theology or Philosophy forums.


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Re: Does the Soul have Mass?

A Soul has about as much mass as any other idea.

One would have to be able to detect a soul in order to determine whether it had mass, or energy for that matter.

So far, none detected.


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Have a look at this wiki on . . .
I know I'm new here Freeztar, but I promise to at least cover the basics when posting a question/thread. I'm not NEARLY as smart (<- loosely used) as 95% of the members here. But I will aways do my basic homework before looking to others for answers. For what I lack in technical aptitude, I make up for in joules. You'll never see me talking about formulas and calculations, unless I have to.

How can I explain me better . . . ( I love to explain me, lol )

Freeztar, lets say you're the guy that works out the physics behind an action. I'm they guy that can walk up and apply the physics without ever having to work out the formulas.

A bank shot in basketball is a great way to illustrate my point. You would work out the entire shot in physical math or whatever. I walk up and look at the shot, be the shot and make the shot (in 1 shot). All the while everyone else is mapping out the shot on paper and checking their calcs, I am already celebrating with the cheerleading squad in the shower room .

To be honest, I thought I was pretty smart OR smarter than the average bear, but you guys blow me away around here with your math and science .

Thanks for the URL. Wiki is actually the first place where I had originally gotten my info and read up on MacDougall's experiments & basic theory. Wiki is generally one of my first stops when I'm looking for answers.

I just can't help but to think there has got to be something to this theory.

Just incase my point(s) got lost among my palabar, I'm looking to hear what has not already been written on sites like wiki and thought I'd at least get the benefit-of-the-doubt that I already know the basics. And I'll always try to know the basics before looking to our members for answers.

Thanks for your post!!! Can u tell I'm giving u a hard time here. I'm trying to be subtle about it .


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Re: Does the Soul have Mass?

The question in the thread subject is a bit like asking, "what is the color of unicorn piss?"
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I just can't help but to think there has got to be something to this theory.
Why?

As REASON pointed out, it's a concept, or idea. As such, it has no weight to speak of. It's like asking how much happiness weighs.


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The question in the thread subject is a bit like asking, "what is the color of unicorn piss?"
Interesting way to put it Infinite and I guess your somewhat right. But I guess I'm looking for someone to post their thoughts and theories. Like I said, I just feel there has got to be some truth. I have no hard facts or data to base this on. Just a feeling like it makes sense.


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Why?

As REASON pointed out, it's a concept, or idea. As such, it has no weight to speak of. It's like asking how much happiness weighs.
Doesn't E=MC2 have any bearing on this topic? Matter and energy are really different forms of the same thing. Matter can be turned into energy, and energy into matter. Energy can not be created or destroyed. Just transformed/transferred.

Are we just chemical based power plants. So when we die we just shut down like an old power plant.

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A Soul has about as much mass as any other idea.

One would have to be able to detect a soul in order to determine whether it had mass, or energy for that matter.

So far, none detected.
Don't we basically have to operate under the assumption that the mass exists becuase the energy exists? Therefore, we must accept that we just haven't figured out how to quantify that mass .

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Don't we basically have to operate under the assumption that the mass exists becuase the energy exists? Therefore, we must accept that we just haven't figured out how to quantify that mass .

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It sounds to me like you are suggesting that it is known that soul *energy* exists.

What gives you that idea?

How can any detectable bodily energy be defined as soul energy?


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