The new Star Trek movie.

[Janus]

I don't Know, maybe I just more forgiving then you guys are. But then I went into this movie knowing that it was a re-boot, and was pleasantly surprised that they kept as much as they did. And mind you, I'm a Trek fan from waaay back. I lived through the "barren" years, when there was nothing but reruns of TOS. And even then, I lived out in the boondocks and couldn't pick up a station that showed them, and had to get my Trek fix by reading the Blish adaptations as they came out. I knew that there were such things as Star Trek conventions, but they might as well been on Vulcan for all the chance I had of getting to one.

[Moontanman]

One more thing about the director (or writers, I'm not sure which) being in charge of the TV show Lost. Lost is centered around time travel and or alternate realities and has had some episodes where going back in time and changing or attempting to change the future was the idea. So his direction and or writing is somewhat less than original to begin with.

Where are Brannon Braga and Rick Berman when you need them!

[Zythryn]

Wow, I am really rather surprised to see the reviews here.
I loved it, every bit of it.
I was bouncing off the walls on my way out just thinking of the possibilities they have now for movies or even a new series (dare I hope).
I am going again this weekend if not sooner.
I loved the way they threaded in so many aspects of the Trek universe we all knew.
I loved the way they explained little and big discrepancies within the plot, instead of trying to copy the history and characters exactly, and failing (how could they do so perfectly).
I LOVE the fact that in the end they didn't 'fix' the timeline, leading to so many fresh possibilities.
I am thrilled they gave the ship a new look.
I really enjoyed the special affects, I am not sure where they were sub-par. The shooting style (chaotic, jumping around) is not my preference, but it didn't destroy the movie for me.
The spock-uhura thing is a bit of a stretch, but seeing the history they showed, the loss of his mother AND entire planet and the discussion with his father, I can see it.
You could also see the conflict/tension early on when spock didn't react to uhura in the turbolift.
I LOVED the reference with scotty about beaming admiral archers beagle and ending up in deep #$@#. Just one more little tie in that was so well done
And yes, I am a Trek fan all the way back to the original. Through the lean years, and all the series (some more than others). I very much enjoyed this movie, I am sorry some didn't, but I suppose we can't all like all movies

[DougF]

Well I have not seen this one yet, although I plan to, I have four friends that have and there reviews are as mixed as the comments here.

[Janus]

Originally Posted by Moontanman

One more thing about the director (or writers, I'm not sure which) being in charge of the TV show Lost. Lost is centered around time travel and or alternate realities and has had some episodes where going back in time and changing or attempting to change the future was the idea. So his direction and or writing is somewhat less than original to begin with.

Abrams, the director of Star Trek is a co-creator of LOST, but he doesn't write for it. The writers of Star Trek have no association with LOST. Abrams orignally wanted to do a complete re-boot where you threw out all of the original canon and started completely fresh. It was the writers who convinced him make a connection with the original Trek series, which resulted in the time travel part of the story line. (At no time was it ever the plan to make a straight forward prequel)

[modest]

I suppose I've calmed down a bit. It really was a well-made movie. Abrams did a great job directing it—much better than Shatner or Nimoy and orders of magnitude better than Franks. The acting was great. Karl Urban stuck out in particular as a fantastic Bones and Quinto did very well as Spock. I thought I'd look at him and see Sylar, but there was none of that. He pulled off Spock very well.

Of course, all that takes a back seat to the inevitable truth that they completely broke the Star Trek universe Yeah, it ruined the movie for me. The last 15 minutes of the movie all I could think was "you broke the star trek universe!". They broke the time line and didn't fix it. Why would they do that? Imagine Spielberg deciding to blowup Alderon or Tatooine at the end of episode 1. There would have been riots in the streets of Cairo. We'd be living in a post-apocalyptic thunderdome right now.

Aaahhhh—whatever All I know is I walked out of the movie thinking "why did they do that" instead of "great movie". So, yeah, it ruined it for me.

~modest

[Zythryn]

Originally Posted by modest

They broke the time line and didn't fix it. Why would they do that?

That was done to 'reboot' the Star Trek Universe.
It was basically dead, each show after TNG had a smaller and smaller audience.
They reinvigorated the entire universe without changing what made star trek, star trek.
Yes, Vulcan is gone, and spock's mother and kirk's father are dead. Major DETAILs have changed, but the foundation can go on now.
If you wanted to see something that didn't change at all, you could get some DVDs of the original series

The basic optimistic premise of what humanity is capable of becoming is there and can be explored once again.
But it is exciting now, I can be surprised by the characters without someone needing to take them completely out of character (the books were doing this more and more).

Of course, it may help that I am a HUGE fan of alternative history novels (Harry Turtledove especially). So perhaps I like the 'what if this had happened differently' type of stories.

[Janus]

Originally Posted by modest

The last 15 minutes of the movie all I could think was "you broke the star trek universe!".
~modest

Try not to think of it as being broken as much as have been given a whole new beginning.

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by Zythryn

That was done to 'reboot' the Star Trek Universe....If you wanted to see something that didn't change at all, you could get some DVDs of the original series....

Zythryn,
you just don't get it.
They didn't just 'reboot' the Star Trek Universe.
They rebooted OUR universe.
Go ahead, try to play your old TOS DVDs. They're BLANK now!!! Because they never happened. Within a few weeks, all references to the Star Trek TOS, and TNG will fade and disappear forever, leaving only this new movie to start a whole new canon.
In a few months, people will read this thread and wonder what the hell we're talking about. The time-line distortion is a lot worse than you imagined.

[Moontanman]

A window for a view screen? A FREAKIN' WINDOW?