[Fishteacher73]

One must realize that the 30 seconds of video that constantly is shown is editted from over 7 hrs. of video taken over a course of about 10 years. Not to be disrespectful, but at this moment all she is is meat. I have seen personally the ability to manipulate the human body to make it seem that there is something there. (A good friend of mine is a mortician and has shown me how corpses can say, "brains" with a little pressure on the chest and manipulation of the jaw).

Aside from that I was also spoke about this to another friend whom is a critical care nurse. She said that there have been studies that even conscious individuals in heavy physical decline can hve feeding tubes removed and the patients do not notice any change or express any feelings of hunger; much less a vegitive patient.

[UncleAl]

Dr. Kevorkian allowed suffering terminally ill patients to voluntarily end their own lives thus Greatly Offending the State. Schiav-whatsherface (note derision) cannot make a rational decision (convenient) and has run out of money (hoo boy!). Nobody wants her alive if she cannot pay.

The primary purposes of geriatric and terminal care medicine are to rend the patient into insurance reimbursments and to use the meat as a malpractice-proof test bed for training new doctors and nurses. Administering adequate pain meds or allowing natural death are Sins Against Accounts Receivable. Yahweh gets a giggle out of suffering and death, but His priests generally don't enjoy a large coupling constant to the cashflow. Faith-based initiatives seek to solve that in trade for votes.

[OpenMind5]

Yes! Dr. Kevorkian had a cure for everything...
Maybe he had somthing going there....

Op5

[Michaelangelica]

Great TV show on ABC last night
It seems that our biggest drug pushers are 80-90 year olds.
It would be very funny if it wasn't so sad

Elderly Australians prepared to break euthanasia ba
Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Broadcast: 07/05/2007

Reporter: Tony Jones

A growing number of elderly Australians are breaking the law to secure a dignified death.
Transcript
TONY JONES: The Justice Minister Senator David Johnston has said tonight any elderly Australians willing to break the law to produce or traffic the banned drug Nembutal will be fully investigated and brought before the courts.

Tonight's Four Corners program revealed a backyard laboratory in the Southern Highlands south of Sydney that had successfully produced and distributed its first batch of the illegal drug.

The program said at least four other illegal laboratories were also ready to begin operating in Sydney, Wollongong, Melbourne and Perth with up to 800 people waiting for the drug.

BRON NORMAN, EXIT MEMBER: It's not illegal to end your life. Why is it illegal to have the drug that will do it?

TONY JONES: Members of the euthanasia advocacy group Exit Australia are alleged to be behind production of the illegal Nembutal, usually used by vets to euthanase animals

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Lateline - 07/05/2007: Elderly Australians prepared to break euthanasia ban

[Jay-qu]

Its a tough area isnt it.. people can end their lives in many ways without the use of a drug - but this can often cause other people undue trauma. We sell guns, whats wrong with a pill?

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by Jay-qu

Its a tough area isn't it.. people can end their lives in many ways without the use of a drug - but this can often cause other people undue trauma. We sell guns, whats wrong with a pill?

This was a very interesting and thoughtful programme; mainly interviewing people who would like to know they had an alternative to total dependence on the medical system in their old age.
The drug they were making was the pill. they couldn't see why a suicide pill was not avaible to them either. Thats why they started the civil disobedience of making their own. They were prepared to go to goal if necessary. (What judge would put a80-90 YO in jail??) Illegal in Australia but some had flown to Mexico to get it from "veterinary suppliers"
It will be interesting to see if this fascist government tries.
They had mostly discussed this with their families. They had attended seminars on suicide and dying.
They were sane; aware of the consequences of breaking the law by producing illegal drugs, and none were depressed.
They did not want to distress their families by hanging or shooting - pretty violent ways to die..

This is a growing movement in Oz as the population ages and age care and palliative care is underfunded. Most were intelligent professionals often from the medical fields surgeon (90)) swims every day gave himself 2 yaers,) nurses, physiotherapists etc
The NT passed a law allowing euthanasia but the right wing Howard Fedral Government vetoed it.
It is a hard area as many would like their families with them when they die but then the family member may be charged with "assisting a suicide' and go to gaol.
I think you can download the programme if you have braoadband or better.