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Question Right to Die

Ok, i had a hard time figuring out the area for this post...its medicine and humanities...

In the United States here there is a case that has gone ot the Suprime Courts...and been..."rejected!" heres the story.....

On February 25, Terri Schiavo, 26, collapses in her home from what doctors believe is a potassium imbalance. Oxygen flow to her brain is interrupted for about five minutes, causing permanent damage. A court rules that she is incapacitated and her husband, Michael Schiavo, is appointed as her legal guardian.
She has been a "Vegitable" state for about 15 years! Her husband, says his wife would never want to be in a state like that...so he wanted to remove her feeding tube (Remind u she is basicly brain dead and SOME docs say she has no chance or no feeling of pain) and let her die. On the other hand...
Her parents DON'T want the tube to be removed...and they have been fighting in courts over it..finally the tube has been removed, but they are still fighting...(she is still alive)

So does this lady desirve to live? Or is it that she should die? Is it right for us to let her? Or what can science offer?
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If you want more info...here is the story line....
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/22/schiavo/index.html
(you can find alot more side stories and "timelines" that are of this story...its a big thing...)

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Re: Right to Die

Tough call since I only have the info I get from the news. But it seems like it's time to pull the plug and face the inevitable. She is for all practical purposes a dead person.
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Re: Right to Die

Yeah I've followed this. They shoulda given her an injection. At least it woulda been a quicker death. I am for putting her body and mind at rest, but I'll be darned if it's gotta be a painful experience for her!
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Re: Right to Die

plain and simple. let her die already, she's not coming back.
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Re: Right to Die

According to the available information she told her husband, best friend, an uncle and brother-in-law that she did not want to be kept alive artificially. It's time her wishes are honored.
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Re: Right to Die

So far it seems obvious, let her pass on...but the parents will not let them do this...they are fighting (and losing) but they have a "bush and a peck" of doctors that say she is aware, she does have hope...ect...
Are these just a bunch of "crack pot" doctors?

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Re: Right to Die

I had this same discussion with some friends today. What it boils down to for us was this...
It sounds great to say "Her wish was not to live like this, so let her die". I'm all for that. I think that her husband has the right to determine what happens to her, legally. And I hope that, in this case, her tube is not re-inserted, as she has already spent 15 years too long here.
However, as a mother, I can't say for sure that I wouldn't do exactly what her parents are doing. I mean, if it weren't just some poor woman on the news, if it were my Em or Mags, or any of my older children, I'm not sure that I wouldn't do every single thing I can think of to keep them alive as well. That's a maternal thing, I guess. A mother should never be forced to bury her child. It just hurts me to even think of being in that position.
I'd love to be able to say that I would give up their lives with grace and dignity, and celebrate their lives with gusto, and honor their memory, but realistically, I think I might do the same thing as those parents are doing. I can't even imagine what they are going through. And before I condemn them as horrid people that aren't doing what she wanted, I have to stop and think about what I would do. I would fight, with everything that's inside of me, for a chance, any chance, to keep my child alive.
Of course, this just applies to my children for me. If it were my husband, I know the plug (or feeding tube, in this case) would have been pulled long ago. We have had that discussion many times, and we both know how the other feels, though we don't agree 100% with each other. Also, I would have no problem pulling the plug on a parent, if that was their wish. But it's a whole different story when you talk about my children.
I know that's not the popular answer today, but that's how I feel. Hope you will be kind in your responses, and know that I just spent an incredible time snuggling with my 'baby', and can't fathom any situation where I would agree to ending her life if I thought there waseven the most remote chance that she may one day be ok. That's my mommy voice, and that's all I can give on this one...
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Re: Right to Die

The idea of advanced directives is what we all need to remember. It is an easy and short legal document that you can have drawn up for very little (You might even be able to find templates on the web and then get them notarized). This is essentially instructions for what you want done if you are incapacitated and cannot voice the decision yourself.

This issue probabbly would not have gotten the media and court time had it not been for the Christian pro-life movement adopting this case to try to set precident. The husband has the legal right to decide. Florida courts have decided four times that this is the case. Even the questionable federal involvement has decided in this manner as well.

The saddest issue to me is that they are fighting on allowing this lady to starve to death because our current legal/medical system will not permit assisted suicide. Granted in Schiavo's state there really is no suffering in this method, it eems a bit barbaric to allow a person to waste away when we have a fully functional death machine in place for only ciminals...
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Re: Right to Die

I agree, they are starving her, but they say she feels no pain...
Still the idea of assisted suicide seems to be the case here...
Should they? Is it murder or a cure?

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Re: Right to Die

Does She appear to be in a Vegitable state ?

I am pro euthanasia but Theresa should leave when she decides it is time, not a moment earlier
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