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Old 04-20-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Talking origin of fashion-couture

There must be a great art and lot of hardwork behind those garments: Lots of meticulous planning and organization and only the connoisseurs who can smell subtelety can understand this.I understand tailors and textile designers who make patterns and motiffs,but somehow I don't understandthe logic behind the the art of fashion designing and all those fashion gurus ramping their ridiculously unwearable designer garments and telling everyone what they should be wearing this summer and how to look more comfortable.Any views???
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Re: origin of fashion-couture

i dont get it either,although there are many who do. Art (amoungst other descriptions)is any expression of an idea that reflects a phenomonon occuring in society, in the world of fashion, it seems to be a socio/ socio-economic statement as well as an expression of asthetics and fuctional design. The ancient Celts wore garments (and removed them for battle!) that displayed asthetic symbols of what they felt were marks of cultural identity.They also wore adornments that signified thier rank within the heirarchy of thier society.These identifying characteristics were utalised for the sake of others of the same ilk. Observers who didnt share a similar cultural identity would not have understood its true meaning as it was intended but, may have interprited these charachteristics using thier own code of cultural values and thus misunderstood the symbolism behind this behaviour. Today consumerism is viral like in its ability to invade and change the nature of naturally occuring social phenomemon...shame really.
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Re: origin of fashion-couture

<harumph>Boys!</harumph>

Two points, based on having grown up in the middle of the women's wear business:

The stuff in the fashion shows is to get publicity. For those of you with a TV set in the US there was a hilarious Wachovia ad a few months ago about a soccer mom at a PTA meeting wearing a silly fashion show creation. The stuff that the most outrageous designers put out is pretty conventional when it finally hits the racks at Macy's.

Women's Wear Daily--the only thing to read in the business--has this as their unofficial motto: "We don't report the news, we make it."

Nuff said....

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Re: origin of fashion-couture

Oh and if you're talking about what you see at the Academy Awards (which is in a class all its own), You'll notice that most of it is intended to attract attention, and really only some of it ends up being outright impractical (Renee Zellweger's too-tight-at-the-knees-to-even-walk thing last month), or unbelievably silly (Bjork's "Swan"). If you're at the awards, screen time is *everything* and you do anything you can to get it...

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Re: origin of fashion-couture

Okay one more point. Bill Theiss--who was the costume designer for the original Star Trek, among many other things--always said that the more something looked like it was about to fall off, the sexier it looks....you see a lot of *that* at the awards too....

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Buffy's back!!!

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All points ageed upon, Buffy.

PS: I believe you have some unfinished business in the chess forum...


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