is being young and really smart make you a genius?

[CD27]

the one i used that had those statistics is called tickle. about IQ tests. search on google, you should find it.

[GAHD]

Originally posted by: Uncle Martin
....appears to be a very biased statement and the numbers pulled from thin air...

Note the "I think", indicating that I'm unshure.
The numbers are from memory; I remember that americans scored 10-20 points lower on average than canadians, who averaged at around/over 100. The source was the woman who gave me my test when I was 14; I have no idea where she got them, and the exact numbers are a little fuzzy in my memory. I can reserch the averages, but you are probably just as proficient with google as I am

BTW, might be a good idea to put {/q}, with [] replacing {}, at the end of the quotes you are making; this indents the quote, but leaves your text flush to the left. I only say this because it's sometimes hard to seperate quote from responce in your posts.

Originally posted by: CD27

......i hate this thing, it's......

Watch your mouth(IE edit), and again; what browser do you use(Help>About 'X')? Actually, reply to this post in the computers forum under a new thread("my crappy browser" perhapse?) so we don't bog down this one with the discussion/tech support.

on another note 136 is a respectible IQ, well above the norm. I would suggest cheching if there is a person qualified in your area's universities, though this might ding ya a few bucks.

[CD27]

lol, i don't haver a few bucks, don't even have a job, uinfortunately, my gardian has to be there to sign papers, and he keeps forgetting, so i'm jsut gonna wait another year and then i'll be 18. sorry about the bad language. the browser i use, i use two, one is firefox and the other is IE, which IE is out of commition, i have no idea how to fix it. that is why i got firefox. my computer is so slow it is not funny, it takes five minutes to run one single page, not to mention i'm usually on two or three at a time. i foudn this program, called spykiller, it really works. it scans your computer and cleans it of viruses, it's very good, but i don't have it for my computer, my brother in california does. i went to the site for it, it gave my computer a free scan. you would not believe how many viruses my computer alone has in its system. some are active, and some are not at the moment. but i have 818 viruses on my computer. it costs $30 to buy the program, but i only have cash. o credit card is out of the picture. i can't get a money order because my guardian would forget to take me anyways, i've already asked once. i think i could really use some help, bad, or my computer is soon to crash. as a matter a fact, i belive it almost did one time. it got so bad in fact that it would freeze as soon as the desktop showed up on screen. lucky for me my computer has a program built in it where it can go back to any particular point in the computrer's past, but only seven days each time you use it, and ypou got to go through a very large procedure to een get that far. so i jsut went just far enough to get before it was trying to fail on me. it started to weork again, but my IE browser is caput. it keeps goung strait to this site, it's like a porn site or something, kinda disgusting actually, it has no pictures, but its like a search engine for porn, gives you a list of topics to choose from. this web page for some reason is what messes my computer up. what it does is turns off my internet, actually makes it to where you can not pull up any programs at all. you have to reboot to get it to work again. so yea, i really really need to find some way to buy this spykiller program. then i got to go to microsoft and get some kind of download to fix my browser.

[Tim_Lou]

"in other words, a little kid being able to do calculus, or a 16 year old understanding relativity, or a 4 year oold able to play mosark (i don't know how to spell that)...do those make people geniuses?"

nothing big...
a 1 year old boy can do calculus, so what?
i can do calculus, but about 16 yrs older.

hey, who cares!
i dont care, i might live for 80 yrs, and that guy might not.
i spend 16 yrs on learning math and that guy take 1 year...so? we know the same stuffs!
i spend the rest of my lefe discovering math while that guy might be lazy to do it.
even though if he works the same way as i do, there is no big differences.
since all the existed knowledge are the same for us! nobody can go beyond except if you have new discoveries!

a 10 yrs old kid can make histroy, and so as a 80 yrs old man.

do you think that a professional in age of 80 is as smart as an 60 yrs old professional?
(both are old lol...)

here is a nice saying about life (is based on some of my understanding in chinese...):
life follows the "conservation of energy", the total amount of energy you spend is constant.

ex. if you spend more time on math, then something else is gonna get deducted.
if im lazy to do work, i'll have more "energy" for relaxation, and have a more comfortable life (the energy is used up more slowly)

but, rather than spending this energy little by little... i would use them all together and do something "big".

("genius"?? nothing but a highly "standardized-intelligent" person.)

[CD27]

for someone to know calculus at an age that is not supposed to even be learned at a ninth grade level, i'd consider that eprson a genius.

[Tim_Lou]

i thought thats what you want,
instead of defining "genius".

[CD27]

..i'm confuesed here..what do you mean " i thought thats what you want,
instead of defining 'genius' "?

[Tim_Lou]

"genius" means nothign lol...

i thought that you were just asking,
is being smart make you special, sucessful?...

and my opinion is that they are normal people like everybody else.

(yes, i am jealous of "genius", but still, they are really like everybody else.)

[CD27]

well what i meant was, being a certain age and having knowledge that is far advanced for any other person, yes, a guy who is 60 may kow the same knowledge..but how long did it take him to learn this knowledge in comparison to a 16 year old? i'd say quite a bit longer. let's say that 60 year old, who is just as educated as the 16 year old, took 30 years to get his knowledge, but the 16 year old only took two to three years. wouldn't you call that genius? that's what i mean. and then, in comparison from one 16 year old to another. let's say one knows the saem as a 60 year old and the otehr knows what a 16 year old should know, i'd say that the on knowing what the 60 year old does is more likely to be a genius than the other guy, correct?

[Uncle Martin]

I feel that alot of people confuse memory with intelligence. There is a big difference. If memory is all that is required, computers would be intelligent. Contrary to some opinions, at present they are not. Remembering learned facts as presented is not intelligent. Taking your stored knowledge and using it to conceive something new, solve a problem, that's intelligent. Conceptualizing, testing, then proving new facts, that is intelligent. A truly unbiased IQ test does not measure what you know, it evaluates your thought processes. How you think, how you solve sometimes unsolvable problems. That is what a good test should do. Many of the better IQ tests have questions without a correct or incorrect answer, it just determines how you approach a problem. A good memory is an asset, no doubt, and probably contributes to overall success. But there is much more to intelligence.