Masturbation

[Rebiu]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

If you are considering the under age participants of your fanstasy while masturbating, it's gray area. It's okay in some sense since, when you first found the other person an object of desire, you were both the same age. However, now that you are older, the fantasy should reside more within the way you felt at the time (when you were younger) as opposed to still fantasizing about the under age person themselves (which yes, would not be as appropriate). It is, however, a fantasy and is fine as long as it remains an imagined experience and doesn't venture into the realm of actuality.

Sound like word games you play to maintain your unrealistic notions. I am sure we all carefully censor our fantasies on the fly so we do not offend our victim oriented cultures sensibilities.
What about fantasies involving masachism, dominance, subservient partners, slaves, fear, aliens, or mutants? Do these fall in the "Gray area"?

[Rebiu]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

Yeah, they bug me, too. What, with all their well thought out and clearly articulated points, and always being right. I mean, gosh... Some people just need to learn to accept the ignorance of others and stop trying to walk them away from it.

You clearly need a woman in your life. This sucking up is not what they want either.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Rebiu

Sound like word games you play to maintain your unrealistic notions. I am sure we all carefully censor our fantasies on the fly so we do not offend our victim oriented cultures sensibilities.
What about fantasies involving masachism, dominance, subservient partners, slaves, fear, aliens, or mutants? Do these fall in the "Gray area"?

Confrontational much?


If you feel so strongly about it all, I'm really quite surprised to find you have such a thin skin.

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by Rebiu

Well put. Do you think the combination of a fantasy and the release of orgasm is a kind of safety valve to alleviate urges that are not socially acceptable.

Yes and no. Solo sex alleviates urges, ALL of which are not socially acceptable at some point in your life. When you are 15, I seriously doubt that ANY of your urges would have been okay with your parents or society.
At the age of 15 +/-, sexual urges are typically very strong. If there were no way for us to relieve ourselves, we would probably all have spent some time in the pokey.

What are the implications is these memories include underage participants from a time when you yourself were underage? ....

The syntax of that sentence makes it really hard to figure out what you intend to ask, but I can guess. And the answer is: this is a treacherous topic, which I do not care to discuss at length. What is generally regarded as the truth is that children who are molested will often "act out" when they become adults, and this acting out often reflects a similar fantasy life. However, having said that, if we look at the 90% of humans who are "normal" and well adjusted, I would say the answer to your question is probably 'no'.

[Pyrotex]

Speaking of masturbation... (what's the title of this thread again?)
I have been hearing rumors of new cyber-gadgets being made and sold. No one seems to know any specific details, except that these devices plug into the USB port of your computer (at one end) and "into" or "around" naughty bits of the human anatomy at the other end. The "naughty" part of the device can be controled by someone else on the internet.

What are your thoughts, folks?

[InfiniteNow]

There was an HBO show called "Cathouse: The Series" which took place at the "Bunny Ranch" outside of Vegas. A few of the females from the ranch took a field trip to learn more about the biz... call it workforce training if you will.

Essentially, they sit in a chair, bring a motorized dildo over and insert. Then, there is a link up between the computer and the motor, and voila. You can click a clit from many cliques away.

Not sure about how this would work for a female stimulating a male, but the idea incorporates interactivity and modern peep show/webcam technology.

[Drip Curl Magic]

From Masturbation to the new generation of cyber sex pleasure.

only on the SF's.

[Drip Curl Magic]

Originally Posted by Pyrotex

And here's something else that I hesitate to mention.
Never mind, forget it.
Well, okay, I will.
When I was in grad school, I noticed that if I had been puffing weed, fantasies that weren't very believable, became so incredibly believable that it was almost like DOING IT. Anybody else have this experience? Turtle? Orby?

Pyro.... I know EXACTLY what you mean. I've experienced this myself many a time.

[Drip Curl Magic]

Originally Posted by Rebiu

I am sure we all carefully censor our fantasies on the fly so we do not offend our victim oriented cultures sensibilities.

Not always. havn't you ever had a fantasy... and then right afterwards thought "wow, what's wrong with me? That was a ridiculously gross story to fantasize!"

Originally Posted by Rebiu

What about fantasies involving masachism, dominance, subservient partners, slaves, fear, aliens, or mutants? Do these fall in the "Gray area"?

I think it depends on what you, yourself think of as grey. If you're not comfortable having fantasies like this... then just don't do it.

To each his own.

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by Rebiu

...I am sure we all carefully censor our fantasies on the fly so we do not offend our victim oriented cultures sensibilities. What about fantasies involving masachism, dominance, subservient partners, slaves, fear, aliens, or mutants? ...

It is very probable, almost a certainty, that most healthy men (I can't speak for women) will experiment with a lot of fantasy types, including ALL you have mentioned. And more. There can be several consequences:

1. You discover the fantasy really isn't very erotic after all. You never do it again.
2. You discover the fantasy is erotic, but somehow, your conscience just can't handle the moral/ethical overload, and you focus on more vanilla fantasies.
3. You discover the fantasy is so erotic that you worry that you might try to actually carry it out in Reality someday if you don't quit now. Shazam! You focus on more vanilla fantasies.
4. You discover the fantasy is so erotic that you do it all the time. The fact that it is verbotten in modern society doesn't bother you at all because the fantasy is so un-realistic, that it CAN'T be done in Reality, at least, not the one we live in today. So damn the torpedoes, full sperm ahead!!!
5. You discover the fantasy is so erotic that you do it all the time. The fact that it is verbotten in modern society doesn't bother you at all (or after a while, anyway) because you know that you will NEVER attempt it in Reality. Your morals and ethics are rock-solid, and you know the difference between fantasy and reality. So damn the torpedoes, full sperm ahead!!!
6. Same as 5, but somehow the erotic intensity of the fantasy blinds you to the reality of "consequences" and you start obsessing about doing it in "reality" whatever the risk. You pay a prostitute to act out her "part", perhaps. Or maybe even, your obsession becomes a delusional compulsion and you wind up facing serious prison time as a "pervert".

I have had at least one #4 fantasy that I was very fond of for a number of years, until I got bored with it. Our social system today rendered it "impossible" to actually do, unless I could find a talented actress, but I never did, because I knew that I would know that she was just acting. No thespians were harmed in the making of this fantasy.