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Re: Masturbation
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So?
It just means I can put a worm on a fishhook better than anyone else! 
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05-23-2006
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Re: Masturbation Ill Effects
There are a lot of myths about Masturbation. But not all of them are myths
The most recent finding is that OVER-masturbation converts testerone to DHT (di-hydro testesterone).High levels of DHT overload the body causing baldness and possible prostate enlargement if blood circulation is poor in the prostate area. Reducing the frequency of masturbation or ejaculation will help maintain low levels of DHT and avoid hair loss.
Here is the complete article
http://www.herballove.com/article.asp?art=62
http://www.4-men.org/malehairloss.html
Also, we have ActionLove.com focusing on this area in particular
http://www.actionlove.com/cases/case10836.htm
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05-23-2006
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...Reducing the frequency of masturbation or ejaculation will help ...avoid hair loss. ...
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I am very skeptical about that. If it were true then reducing the frequency of orgasms, whether masturbation or partner sex or anything, would avoid hair loss. Men who have lots of sex do not as a rule lose more of their hair. Celibates and monks do not as a general rule have more hair.
I averaged masturbating 10 times a day from age 15 to 35. The rate has declined somewhat since then. I am nearly 60 years old with a full head of salt-n-pepper hair. Okay, it's mostly white now.
Masturbation is self-regulating for normal men. If there are any chemical equilibriums being upset, then the desire for more generally goes down.
EDIT: the links you gave are for folks selling something. By and large, herbal and "natural" remedies often attempt to promote the existence of non-existent "disorders" that they then claim they can cure. I wouldn't put much faith in their "scientific evidence".
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05-23-2006
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10 times?
Tell me, Pyro - have you got a blow dryer? 
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05-23-2006
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10 times? Tell me, Pyro - have you got a blow dryer? 
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Boerseun, you have NO idea how unsettling it is to discuss masturbation with someone who has THAT avatar staring out at me. I keep looking over my shoulder to see if the pedophile squad is watching. And it makes me feel very... yucky.
Here little boy, want some candy? Wanna see my blowdryer?
No, I did not have a blow dryer, sap.  I was young, I was terribly alone, I was obsessed with sex, I had too many hormones and too much solitude. Once I started seriously dating (at 35) the rate dropped rather rapidly.
So tell me, little boy, how many times a day do YOU do it? 
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Well, hey, Pyro -
Had no idea my avatar had that effect on you! How's this one, any better?
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05-23-2006
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Well, hey, Pyro - Had no idea my avatar had that effect on you! How's this one, any better?
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Uh!! Err...! That is... Well... ummm...
i guess it will have to do. Sure hope you're not related to that fellow.
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Intellectually speaking, masturbation is not only okay, it's good for you. It is a self education in the early years, and an excellent stress reliever in the later years. It has no known bad side effects, when practiced 'reasonably' and not 'excessively'. It is not morally degrading, or mentally harmful.
Emotionally speaking, it is a whole nuther ball of wax.
By 'reasonably' I mean that it should not be performed in a manner that is inherently risky, like the so-called "choking game" that has killed several young teens in Houston recently. Nor with sharp instruments. Nor with any risk of fecal or biological contamination. Nor while standing up in a canoe -- you get the idea. By 'excessively', I mean to the point where (for men) erection has to be forced. Or where it interferes with daily life. That varies by individual. Personally, I would say that 4 or 6 times a day is not excessive for some, perhaps for others.
What do you mean by a fantasy being "appropriate"?
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actualy it does has a negative effect. and i hate to disappoint you . it can change the chemistry of your brain. it can reflect on your normal sexlife. when you are masturbating you can imaging what ever you like, you can take any fantasy for granted, and u know no limits. now we all have our temptations that we cant let loos. for example if some one has a very hot aunt. and wants to have sex with her. he can masturbate to that. but that will chage his all aproach to her later on.
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06-14-2009
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You got something you wanna share with us, riper, maybe, lemme see... regarding your aunt? 
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Masturbation not only okay, but healthy. People who don't masturbate are not ok
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when you are masturbating you can imaging what ever you like, you can take any fantasy for granted, and u know no limits.
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Yes, and we can fantasize when having actual sex with another person, too. So what? Fantasy is really irrelevant to the discussion, especially since fantasy is not in any way dependent on orgasm, release, or the method by which it's obtained. Same with masturbation... you can do it without fantasizing, so really... what is your point?
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now we all have our temptations that we cant let loos. for example if some one has a very hot aunt. and wants to have sex with her. he can masturbate to that. but that will chage his all aproach to her later on.
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Again, masturbation not really relevant. The fantasy existed well before the masturbation began. In fact, the masturbation probably wouldn't be happening at all if you didn't already have the fantasy. You're putting the cart before the horse. While the feelings which come from masturbation may reinforce the desire you feel for your aunt, the desire is there WELL BEFORE you start masturbating, so your argument fails pretty robustly.
I hate to disappoint you... 
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