Guerrilla Gardening

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by Larv

Wasn’t Johnny Appleseed a guerrilla gardener?

LOL
Yes
The first? environmental vandal.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Michaelangelica

LOL
Yes
The first? environmental vandal.

There is a persistent rumor, and I have some geneologists on this as I key, that Johnny Appleseed -aka John Chapman- is a twig on my family tree. This wouldn't surprise me at all as he was, if nothing else, a reclusive whack-job eccentric.

Johnny was a great fan & follower of another nut-case eccentric of the era, one Emanuel Swedenborg.

Emanuel Swedenborg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Wicked_Pediot

Emanuel Swedenborg (help·info) (born Emanuel Swedberg; February 8, 1688[1]–March 29, 1772) was a Swedish scientist, philosopher, Christian mystic,[2][3] and theologian. Swedenborg had a prolific career as an inventor and scientist. At the age of fifty-six he entered into a spiritual phase in which he experienced dreams and visions. This culminated in a spiritual awakening, where he claimed he was appointed by the Lord to write a heavenly doctrine to reform Christianity. He claimed that the Lord had opened his eyes, so that from then on he could freely visit heaven and hell, and talk with angels, demons, and other spirits. For the remaining 28 years of his life, he wrote and published 18 theological works, of which the best known was Heaven and Hell (1758),[4] and several unpublished theological works. ...

Now back to whether or not Johnny was a vandal, if you mean that he cleared some native plants to put in apples then I suppose you could argue it was vandalism, but then I would argue back that vandalism goes to intent. Funny fellow that he was, Johnny had the best of intentions and respect for all life. He once threw away a shoe to punish his foot for stepping on a worm, for crying out loud!

For myself, I am currently guerrilla gardening in my own yard, a rental property, by replacing grass with planting beds and putting in native plants that I have collected as well as fostering along those already here, and all the while doing my best to decrease the population of foreign invaders by ripping them up by they little roots.

[Michaelangelica]

Benary goes Guerilla Gardening mit Pro Sieben

Die Aktion „Pflanz mich fort! Die Stadt ist dein Garten“ wird von der Pro Sieben Wissens-Show Galileo veranstaltet:
Benary unterstützt die Aktion mit 500.000 Sonnenblumensamen!

Ernst Benary Samenzucht GmbH

Benary Goes Guerilla Gardening with Pro Sieben

The "seed me away! The town is your garden "by the
Pro Sieben Galileo knowledge show hosts:
Benary supported the action with 500,000 sunflower seeds!

On Saturday, the 16th May 2009 gets you started. Then Galileo promotional team by eight German cities: Berlin, Dresden, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Hanover, Leipzig and Stuttgart, and distribute seeds bag with the seeds of genuine Galileo sunflower.

Benarys' Soraya 'is the Galileo Sunflower
Gallileo The Sunflower is not just some sunflowers. It is a special variety called 'Soraya' and comes from the ornamental plant breeder südniedersächsischen Ernst Benary Seed Breeding Ltd. With its sunny yellow flowers and large dark disc is almost the perfect sunflower. After all, she was already several international awards.
You can easily raise - up to 1.80 m high - and is durable. Later in the vase.

Let flowers speak!
Benary expresses all the participants good luck
For the action was made in Benary Hann. Münden over 100,000 bags of seeds' Soraya 'bottled sunflower seeds far and Germany sent.
The aim of the scheme is to make our cities more beautiful. Participants are invited to the dreary places and streets of their cities to plant. The original idea wins. Anyone can join. Just a picture or video from your exceptional seed idea with Galileo Gardening upload and participate in the lottery. In September 2009, then the winner of the Galileo Editorial identified and a program of action to broadcast. The exact broadcast date to be announced. Benary clever ideas and wishes all the participants expressed the thumb.
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An iGoogle translation--you get the idea.

[Ganoderma]

that site is freaking halarious!

Automatic seed shoe! LOL, ingenious!

we see a bit of this here, usually by rivers people farm various vegetables until the rains come...and back home in canada Guerrilla gardening (well we called it farming) is also incredibly popular, but tats another cup of tea.

i think we all know what you were looking for Michael.....remember, large areas of thorns are your friend

[maikeru]

Originally Posted by Michaelangelica

This is a cute, empowering idea.

It was a toss up to put it in social or earth Sciences so in the end I decided just to note it here.

The Guerrilla Gardening Homepage

Could it only happen in England?

Love it. We need more of these here in Utah, instead of emerald green lawns. Thought the paper seed bomb idea was clever. That's almost like "seed balls" which were used in ancient farming.

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by Turtle

There is a persistent rumor, and I have some geneologists on this as I key, that Johnny Appleseed -aka John Chapman- is a twig on my family tree. This wouldn't surprise me at all as he was, if nothing else, a reclusive whack-job eccentric.

Johnny was a great fan & follower of another nut-case eccentric of the era, one Emanuel Swedenborg.

Emanuel Swedenborg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Now back to whether or not Johnny was a vandal, if you mean that he cleared some native plants to put in apples then I suppose you could argue it was vandalism, but then I would argue back that vandalism goes to intent. Funny fellow that he was, Johnny had the best of intentions and respect for all life. He once threw away a shoe to punish his foot for stepping on a worm, for crying out loud!
. . .

In the epigenetic genes eh!

Intent?, yes of course, Graffiti artists are just trying to beautify our environment (another Yank import).

I have just grown some apple trees from apple seeds (Granny Smith and Pink Lady fruit). It was surprisingly easy.

This PM ,wet Sunday, i have killed 108 snails. i think i am just not going to be able to cut it as a good Buddhist.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Mocheilyngolecu

In the epigenetic genes eh!

I have just grown some apple trees from apple seeds (Granny Smith and Pink Lady fruit). It was surprisingly easy.

This PM ,wet Sunday, i have killed 108 snails. i think i am just not going to be able to cut it as a good Buddhist.

apple trees from seeds never grow true to the parent. this is why tasty-apple apple trees always come as grafts. ever so often, a not-true apple tree from seed has unusually delicious, rather than usual crab-apply apples as most from seed are, and then when that happens, maybe someone notices the unusually delicious apple and starts taking grafts from its tree.

johnny was planting apple seed trees to provide apples for making cider and vinegar, which settlers needed to...er, well, settle. crab-apply apples work just fine for cider & vinegar. i think this is told in the botany of desire?

Originally Posted by SUSAN TROLLER

... More than just collecting seeds

Saving unique varieties of apples is more complicated than simply collecting apple seeds from a tree that produces good fruit.

That's because apples don't grow "true" from their seeds. Each seed is the result of pollination, and the genetic mix means that the resulting tree will include characteristics from both parents.

When apple growers want to preserve the characteristics of an apple type they like, often they graft a shoot from the desirable tree and attach it permanently to the root stock of another. As the grafted shoot grows, it will produce apples that are true in flavor and type to the original tree. ...

Writing the book on apples

ps was the 108 snail count a coincidence, or did you know that's how many beads on a buddhist string of prayer beads? Buddhist prayer beads - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by Turtle

apple trees from seeds never grow true to the parent. this is why tasty-apple apple trees always come as grafts. ever so often, a not-true apple tree from seed has unusually delicious, rather than usual crab-apply apples as most from seed are, and then when that happens, maybe someone notices the unusually delicious apple and starts taking grafts from its tree.

johnny was planting apple seed trees to provide apples for making cider and vinegar, which settlers needed to...er, well, settle. crab-apply apples work just fine for cider & vinegar. i think this is told in the botany of desire?

Indeed!

Johnny was really interested in apple seeds for the same reason that every other guerilla gardener of that time (in the midwest US) was after. Cheap horse feed! Apparently, horses are not as picky as us humans when it comes to apples.
(and everyone knows you need some horses to settle the "wild west" (Illinois/Indiana/etc.))

[Michaelangelica]

[quote]

Originally Posted by Turtle

apple trees from seeds never grow true to the parent. this is why tasty-apple apple trees always come as grafts. ever so often, a not-true apple tree from seed has unusually delicious, rather than usual crab-apply apples as most from seed are, and then when that happens, maybe someone notices the unusually delicious apple and starts taking grafts from its tree.

Yes i know. That's how Granny got Granny Smith's (/Smiths'?) in Sydney (Epping)
It's my little experiment- if i live long enough to see fruit.

johnny was planting apple seed trees to provide apples for making cider and vinegar, which settlers needed to...er, well, settle. crab-apply apples work just fine for cider & vinegar. i think this is told in the botany of desire?

Great! always wanted astill while i have a little liver left.
Here the fruit fly will get the apples first.
Tasmania (fruit-fly less paradise) is the" Apple isle"

ps was the 108 snail count a coincidence, or did you know that's how many beads on a buddhist string of prayer beads? Buddhist prayer beads - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

O no! That is scary! the universe is after me
Anyway I'm up to 307 now. Lets see Buddha make something of that number!

freeztar
I am told that up until WW2, at least in the UK, carrots were only ever fed to horses. With food shortages in WW2, Poms started to eat carrots-- probably the horses too
I was very tempted to buy some seeds of different coloured carrots the other day ( purple, white and?). I never knew they came in other colours other than orange.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Michaelangelica

...
O no! That is scary! the universe is after me
Anyway I'm up to 307 now. Lets see Buddha make something of that number!

buddha is still dead and will be making nothing of anything soon. i'm still crawlin' though , and while i have no immediate special note or notation for 307, i did notice that it is 3 more than the 3^rd anomalous strange number. 3x3 is 9 and 108 divided by 9 is 12 and 1+2=3.

still, and moreover or some such a matter, knowing you dislike math a bit mick, here is something akin to counting your apple-trees-from-seeds leaves' progress.

Q: what did one apple grower say to another apple grower?
A: make like 2/5 of a tree and leave.

Trees: a handbook of forest-botany ... - Google Books